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Well that was one of the most satisfying Derby’s in a long time on a day that started and ended with very opposite emotions. Which will make this missive long for anyone interested-

Yesterday’s admin-

Title Countdown:
6 wins down/ 24 to go.
20 points down/ 73 to go.

Current PL unbeaten run:
P 2 W 1 D 1 F 4 A 2 CS: 1
1 Straight Win.

Current unbeaten home PL run:
P 16 W 13 D 3 F 39 A 12 CS: 8
4 Straight Wins.

I love my City. I love my people. Passionate. Strong willed. Never slow in coming forward and standing up for what we believe in. Often for those less fortune than ourselves. I loved that yesterday was Derby day. A uniquely Scouse occasion. And not against Chelsea or some other set of ignorant meffs where things could have turned ugly. I loved that many, including in the Everton end, defied the warnings and brought and flew Palestine flags before KO. Including a big message of support at the front of the Kop. Before going at each other for 90 mins, I loved that we do what we always do when needed and came together for the better good. That was the first of those contrasting emotions. Scouse pride among the heart-breaking sadness of it all.

Then the game. Far from a Derby classic. Far from any sort of classic. Everton, the ***** of Merseyside, for once aren’t and come and, the Young madness aside, defend for their lives in a very dogged, very organised display. L’pools passing isn’t quite on it. The same with their finishing. But they never stop grafting. Never stop getting every body they can forward and constantly going at the Ev’s defence to the point they eventually crack with the blatant hand ball. Never a game we remotely looked like we’d lose. (Did the blues have any chances after the first minute header?). But a game that was so, SO important to win and not draw. As exemplified by Jurgen’s fist bumping 3 stands for the first time ever with an extra 4th bump to the Kop! He knew just how mammoth a win that was and just how we’d all hung in there together fighting for it. On and off the pitch in what was a very good atmosphere for a Sat’day dinner game. Side note- To add to that elation emotion at the end, there was the beaming smile on my grid at some arl’ Everton songs not heard in years. ( ’L’pool are magic, Everton are tragic!’ ’We hate Nottm Forest, We hate Everton too. They’re ****! We hate Man Utd, but L’pool we love you ….. ‘ )

Bat the continually woeful Tsimikas, a few player shout outs-

van Dijk, as D noted above, continues to be back to his imperious best. If there's been a better CH in the PL this season, I’d like to see him. The captaincy has elevated him levels and he totally dictated our tempo from the back. And ensured Everton never remotely came close to our goal as he totally locked up Calvert-Lewin and then his replacement after he went off.

Mac Allister. Still needs to be a little more aware of whats around him deeper, but the more he plays back there for both club and Country, the more comfortable a deep lying playmaker he is becoming who also likes a tattle. Just wish he had a tad more pace. But that footballing brain is a nice compensator.

Harvey. Ridiculously talented young footballer who yet again this season altered the flow of the game in a very positive way after he came on. Ceilings sky high on his talent.

And talking of changing games for the better, the now almost complete #9 from Uruguay. His decision making in the perfect ending to Mo, with the pass of the game, exemplified his massive leap forward from year one. Mores the pity that his teammates never returned the favour when he took up some excellent positions in the half spaces between the Ev’s defensive wall.

So all in all, a thoroughly enjoyable, satisfying Derby day were it not for the contrasting emotion of deep sadness with Sir Bobby’s passing. I won’t add too much there as I posted on that yesterday but I don’t mind saying thats hit me as hard as it would have done had it been one of ours. Rivalry goes out of the window when it comes to an absolute World football legend like Charlton. Who was an even better human being.

Manchester, we are grieving with you.
God rest.

UTR! FTT!!!!!
 
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Only half-time but that was an excellent half. Im being proved wrong by Gravenberch because boy does he just glide on the pitch, just needs to tighten up his awareness and work-rate here and there but what project he will be. Endo has been excellent in every one of his outings and I hope Klopp sees a bit of sense and decides to drop the Macca number 6 experiment because it's not doing the lad and his confidence any good. I can see the sense in why he wants Macca as control in the 6 but he just isn't a defensive midfield in transitions and tracking runners/ tackling and it really shows when he is under the cosh. Hopefully, Endo gets a few starts in the league because he is looking very good in the role.
 
MOTM was between Endo and Gravenberch for me. The Gravenberch goal was peak Nunez for me and sometimes you cant help but laugh as he must be playing the game at a higher plane to all of us to crash it off the post for the assist lmao. Nice that he saw the funny side to it too.
 
Like Union, thats how group games should be. Put to bed with the minimum of fuss to allow players to shine under the European lights.

Yesterday’s Admin-

Current total game unbeaten run:
P 4 W 3 D 1 F 11 A 3 CS: 2
2 Straight Wins.

Current unbeaten home total games run:
P 15 W 13 D 2 F 42 A 12 CS: 7
7 Straight Wins.

3 wins out of 3 to all but box the group. Hopefully, a win next time out in Toulouse and we won’t have the very unneeded extra round in the Spring.

What is is with UEFA man? As if trying to limit the boss Toulouse fans in how they support there team wasn’t enough. (They’ll get a heavy fine for the pyro. Funny seeing the Police try to intervene and then think better of wading in.). Making the clubs perfect tribute to a really solid Scouser who never forgot his roots, Bill Kenwright (The choice of The Hollies classic was perfect. As was the heartfelt applause through it), happen 10 mins before KO so as not to take away from their anthem garbage was just ….. They are SO out of touch with the people they pertain to put first, actual supporters without which they’d have no money making machine, its untrue.

Thankfully, we’ll get to pay our respects to Sir Bobby on Sunday together and not with many people not in their seats like last night. 😡

Utterly mad to me how people ever doubted the strength of our squad based off one outlying season that had had a whole host of reasons behind it in context. I watched a full strength Utd on Tuesday labour to a home win over similarly average opposition. A Utd side with absolutely no identity. One of the worst coached Utd sides in living memory with a current manager who makes Solksjaer look competent. (At leat you could see what he was trying to do.). A Utd side that just relies on the totally unsustainable premiss that a moment of individual brilliance will drag them out of the mud. I’m referencing them, as many foolhardily got caught up in the blurred falseness of last season, and loudly proclaimed this summer our great rivals down the road had surpassed us. 🤦‍♂️ Contrast that to Jurgen’s new gang of ravenous Reds. A proper coached side who can comfortably make 8 changes, give a full and competitive debut respectively to two young left fulls, and not miss a beat in a really good display on the European stage.

We’ve something really special brewing again here and this group are primmed to go all out for everything again this year. I love that belief is just getting stronger and stronger across the whole squad by the passing game. I love that Chambers and Scanlon, who both did sound BTW on such a stage, are now a part of this journey. I love that Endo, a proper contender for MOTM, bagged his first goal to make him feel more and more a part of the joy going on at Anfield once more. I love that Gravenberch (Smiles knowingly), is making Bayern seriously question just what the heck they were playing at his time there totally ignoring him. I love that Darwin is giving me a mancrush on a footballer I’ve not had since Torres. I love that I’m feeling the same, youthful exuberance with this group as the beaming smile on the kite of the really young lad to my right last night lucky enough to take his place on pthis wondrous journey we are on again with another rapidly developing, brilliant, L’pool side.

Is it Sunday already to get more of the best drug money can buy?

UTR! FTT!!!!!
 
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Like I said before Scouse giving me Kiev season vibes. Looking forward to every game as you know it will be exciting to watch and the pressure of keeping up with City Juggernaut every game isn't really there. Although the squad themselves has high expectations of what they are capable of this season as evident from Szboss recent interview.
 
I hope Klopp drops the Macca as a six experiment for the time being and goes with Endo for now. You can tell the former is low in confidence and the latter is coming into his own getting used to the side and gaining confidence with each game.
 
dilakh2 said:
I hope Klopp drops the Macca as a six experiment for the time being and goes with Endo for now. You can tell the former is low in confidence and the latter is coming into his own getting used to the side and gaining confidence with each game.
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I personally don’t think it’s an ‘experiment’ mate. I think this is by design and not necessity. And I doubt you’ll see us buy a traditional 6, even if say Andre comes in, I think at best you’ll see Mac Allister in a double pivot back there like he was the majority of the time at Brighton.

We’re evolving the position (in this Country at least. He’s played every game since the WC for Argentina in the role), away from a sitter that we don’t need 99% of the time given we’ve evolved into a more possession based side that plays the majority of the game in the oppo’s half. (Not to mention the need for a sitter at home in particular is negated with the vast majority of trams just playing 1 up and sitting deep.). And a top ball player like Alexis, who also likes a ‘tattle, is perfect for progressing the play.

Where I completely disagree with you is I think Mac Allister has grown into the role and is plying some real good football the more experience he gets back there in our system. With the legs of the 8’s dropping in to allow him forward. All he lacks is pace but others compensate for that.

It started out as not ideal, but the more this develops and the more they get it down, the more comfortable everyone is looking to me.

Endo has his place in the squad and there’s always a need for a closer in games. But, and I might be wrong, I don’t think you’ll see us going down the road of a specialist 6 too often as we evolve Jurgens second great team.

It seems in this version, he wants to get as many attacking technical ball players, who also bring physicality, onto the pitch as possible.
 
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All the above said, I’ve no worries Endo or anyone playing today or any other game mate. We’ve a squad bang on it, brimming with quality depth, just loving being a part of this journey again in every competition. All showing they are more than capable whatever the game.

You aren’t concerned if ‘perceived’ starters play the league or cups as their replacements, like Endo, are killing it every chance they get.
 
Straight into these scab btards Red Men!

Talking about teams we have a rivalry with through the week, all the East Midlands meffs are up there. Particular Derby and Forest which is long standing hatred.

Time to unleash Darwin from the start. Think we lick these 3 or 4. Then, as P poor as Utd are, you wouldn’t be surprised to see then upset City as, like the Ev, they always raise it for the Manc Derby.

God I love not being able to wait for for games of L’pool football again!
 
And then perspective hits. Just as you thought football would be a nice distraction from the heartbreakingly horrific, on going genocide of the poor Palestinians, you wake to this.

Thoughts and prayers are with the Diaz family. 🙏🏻❤️

What a sad, sad World this currently is.

www.liverpoolfc.com

Liverpool FC statement - Liverpool FC

Liverpool Football Club can confirm it is aware of an ongoing situation involving the family of Luis Diaz in Colombia.
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www.espn.com

Parents of Liverpool's Díaz kidnapped in Colombia

Colombian President Gustavo Petro on Saturday said the mother of Liverpool soccer player Luis Díaz had been rescued after being kidnapped in northern Colombia but that officials were still searching for his missing father.
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im convinced there are two Szoboszlai on the pitch, my god he was fantastic.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
I personally don’t think it’s an ‘experiment’ mate. I think this is by design and not necessity. And I doubt you’ll see us buy a traditional 6, even if say Andre comes in, I think at best you’ll see Mac Allister in a double pivot back there like he was the majority of the time at Brighton.

We’re evolving the position (in this Country at least. He’s played every game since the WC for Argentina in the role), away from a sitter that we don’t need 99% of the time given we’ve evolved into a more possession based side that plays the majority of the game in the oppo’s half. (Not to mention the need for a sitter at home in particular is negated with the vast majority of trams just playing 1 up and sitting deep.). And a top ball player like Alexis, who also likes a ‘tattle, is perfect for progressing the play.

Where I completely disagree with you is I think Mac Allister has grown into the role and is plying some real good football the more experience he gets back there in our system. With the legs of the 8’s dropping in to allow him forward. All he lacks is pace but others compensate for that.

It started out as not ideal, but the more this develops and the more they get it down, the more comfortable everyone is looking to me.

Endo has his place in the squad and there’s always a need for a closer in games. But, and I might be wrong, I don’t think you’ll see us going down the road of a specialist 6 too often as we evolve Jurgens second great team.

It seems in this version, he wants to get as many attacking technical ball players, who also bring physicality, onto the pitch as possible.
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I think I mentioned it before I understand why he wants Macca in the 6 role as the unit of choice of the midfield works so hard especially the Szboss that it negates the need for a specialist 6. However, it is not Macca's game for me and cuts out his main qualities. I think with Curtis out for the 3 games it would've been a good chance for him to be pushed further forward but it never happened for whatever reason. Games like today won't really highlight how much macca struggles in the role but against better opposition, he will be under the cosh a lot more, especially in transitions. Either way, it's good to have an Endo-like player in the squad who won't moan and will do an excellent job when put into the side.
 
The football club really ****** me off today. The quoted is from something I just read elsewhere but it makes the point.

’ ….. And ahead of the match there were also Palestine flags handed out by a group of
supporters around Anfield to those who wanted to display solidarity, despite a Premier League ban on showing flags from either that nation or Israel amid the ongoing Israeli-Hamas war.

Despite that, fans were repeatedly asked not to display those flags by directive from Liverpool and the Premier League. ….. '

This is fast becoming a serious issue. From being asked at the turnies to unzip your coat so they could check for flags. (‘Mate, F off! It’s cold. I aren’t unzipping for anyone!’ or heated words to that effect were being exchanged.). Through the club taking down loads of different Nation flags (the FA directive is just for Israel/ Palestine flags), as they have now made a ridiculous rod for their own back. Yet there were plainly 2 St Georges cross Forest flags at the front of the Road End which never got touched. What's the F difference? 🤷🏼‍♂️ Lad in front of us was challenged by the stewards for waving a Hungary flag for big Dom! The irony here on all this contradictory, selective bull is that they actively encouraged Ukraine flags to be flown in solidarity.

It was like being back in Thatcher;s Britain today as the club cow towed to the Tory line.

They need a serious rethink and quick as we’re not good at being told what to do when we want to exercise our right to stand up for what we believe in. This will get ugly fast if the club line is the same come Brentford.

’ At Anfield, football should never only be about the football.'

Anyone that doesn’t understand that, doesn’t understand our whole fan culture and the City the football club you’re a fan of represents.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
The football club really ****** me off today. The quoted is from something I just read elsewhere but it makes the point.

’ ….. And ahead of the match there were also Palestine flags handed out by a group of
supporters around Anfield to those who wanted to display solidarity, despite a Premier League ban on showing flags from either that nation or Israel amid the ongoing Israeli-Hamas war.

Despite that, fans were repeatedly asked not to display those flags by directive from Liverpool and the Premier League. ….. '

This is fast becoming a serious issue. From being asked at the turnies to unzip your coat so they could check for flags. (‘Mate, F off! It’s cold. I aren’t unzipping for anyone!’ or heated words to that effect were being exchanged.). Through the club taking down loads of different Nation flags (the FA directive is just for Israel/ Palestine flags), as they have now made a ridiculous rod for their own back. Yet there were plainly 2 St Georges cross Forest flags at the front of the Road End which never got touched. What's the F difference? 🤷🏼‍♂️ Lad in front of us was challenged by the stewards for waving a Hungary flag for big Dom! The irony here on all this contradictory, selective bull is that they actively encouraged Ukraine flags to be flown in solidarity.

It was like being back in Thatcher;s Britain today as the club cow towed to the Tory line.

They need a serious rethink and quick as we’re not good at being told what to do when we want to exercise our right to stand up for what we believe in. This will get ugly fast if the club line is the same come Brentford.

’ At Anfield, football should never only be about the football.'

Anyone that doesn’t understand that, doesn’t understand our whole fan culture and the City the football club you’re a fan of represents.
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I saw online that an Endo japanese themed flag was also confiscated. The FA are just covering their ***** sitting on the fence with their heads in the sand ******.
 
dilakh2 said:
I think I mentioned it before I understand why he wants Macca in the 6 role as the unit of choice of the midfield works so hard especially the Szboss that it negates the need for a specialist 6. However, it is not Macca's game for me and cuts out his main qualities. I think with Curtis out for the 3 games it would've been a good chance for him to be pushed further forward but it never happened for whatever reason. Games like today won't really highlight how much macca struggles in the role but against better opposition, he will be under the cosh a lot more, especially in transitions. Either way, it's good to have an Endo-like player in the squad who won't moan and will do an excellent job when put into the side.
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FWIW mate-

www.thisisanfield.com

'That's why' - Klopp explains benefit of Mac Allister as the No. 6

“I’m really pleased for him."
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