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It seems that 30m? Cesc exit from Barcelona can be realistic, now it's up to us to do our best to race for him.
Clueless statement tbh. Harsh to call him clueless after being thrown into a side of the job he has never done before or has any experience in what so ever! I blame Gill more than anyone for going the same time a Fergie, Gill should of stayed on another year to help Moyes/Woody deal with transfers last summer giving Woody some much needed experience dealing with players/cubs/agents. People forget Woody is one of the main if not the main reason UTD rake in 100s of millions of pounds every year!
People forget Woody is one of the main if not the main reason UTD rake in 100s of millions of pounds every year!
No. He's not. He has his part in that, but he's hardly the main reason. Moyes and Ferguson are main reasons.He's also main reason why you lost milions in Champions League/PL rewards and bloew 28m to panic buy a lamp pole.
No. He's not. He has his part in that, but he's hardly the main reason. Moyes and Ferguson are main reasons.
Not buying players and being god.What did Ferguson do exactly?
Not buying players and being god.
So? He left the team at the top and if you look at his last 3-4 years, he's already been building team for the future. The core of young players he left behind - De Gea, Rafael, Evans, Jones, Smalling, Kagawa, Welbeck, Hernadez, Januzaj - are pretty good and they can last for 10 years. He also left best striker force in a world of football.
All you really needed last season is 2, maybe 3 top players in key positions and you would easily challenge for the title.
You can hardly expect Ferguson to plan for other people's mistakes. Even God can't see the future.
Yet the main reason why Moyes struggled is no midfield.
Yes, Woody has his fingers in last summer fiasco, but saying he's the main reason United finished 7th is crazy. Moyes underperformed, even with the winning squad sir Alex left. SAF didn't get decent midfield since forever, and it had to bite United sometime.
Changing manager, key players underperforming and Moyes being underwhelming led to 7th place. Oh, and btw, only De Gea and Rafael were first teamers. Rest of those guys are backup at best.
And it's ******* amazing how you blame Woody for Uniteds crisis and in the same time defending Ferguson saying he had winning team. Getting 2-3 top players is difficult, SAF struggled to get his targets in last couple of seasons. He has his fault, he left unbalanced team to completely rookie and manager who flopped.
Yeah so perhaps he should buy some midfielders. I have wild and bold ideas, I know.
You can say whatever you want, but United did try to sign some midfielders. Woody did try to get the players, he failed and that is his fault. However, that is not excuse to be 7th in the end. That squad was winning squad, and those were your words.No it didn't. If you don't want lack of midfielders to bite you in the ***, you should probably buy some actual midfielders instead of panic buying Elbow-man on last day of the window.
Evans was always backup for Rio or Vidic. Januzaj didin't even played a game for Sir Alex. Kagawa is anticlimactic, he flopped unfortunately. Maybe it would been different if Rooney was sold, meh, who knows. Jones isn't very good footballer, let's be honest. He has hart, guts, hot girlfriend but he's an idiot on the pitch. Smalling is superior defender.No? Evans is already good enough to be a starter. Kagawa arrived as one of best 10's in Europe. Jones can develop into first choice CB if he's actually played in position for a change. Januzaj can definitely be a starter. Add RVP and Rooney and you've got yourself almost whole team.
Like I said, summer fiasco is Woodies fault, he has his fingers in it. However, Moyes did scratched list of targets United scouts have made and tried to pursue unrealistic targets. It's not Woodwards task to decide who should United buy. He's responsible to get the player manager wants. He failed, he should have said to Moyes that player doesn't want to join. Did he, or did he not. I don't know. But it hardly all his fault.Funny, I don't see other teams having much of a problem to bring 2 players who immediately become starters. In fact, some do it every other window, with less net spend then Woody's 65 mil.
Ferguson had unbalanced team for 5 years. Moyes had unbalanced team for a year with actual midfielder who was his target since beginning. So what United overspent? That's not the point. Point it Moyes' target flopped in his first season, player who was actually midfielder. Player who can bring balance to this United team. Is that Woodies fault as well.The team was unbalanced, but it wasn't so unbalanced that it couldn't be patched up to top 4 level within one window.
That's on Woody and Moyes, all of it.
Now now, thinking that the likes of Evans, Jones, Kagawa, Januzaj etc are backups AT BEST is certainly wrong. Calm down and take a look at what you've said then come again.Yet the main reason why Moyes struggled is no midfield. Yes, Woody has his fingers in last summer fiasco, but saying he's the main reason United finished 7th is crazy. Moyes underperformed, even with the winning squad sir Alex left. SAF didn't get decent midfield since forever, and it had to bite United sometime. Changing manager, key players underperforming and Moyes being underwhelming led to 7th place. Oh, and btw, only De Gea and Rafael were first teamers. Rest of those guys are backup at best.
And it's ******* amazing how you blame Woody for Uniteds crisis and in the same time defending Ferguson saying he had winning team. Getting 2-3 top players is difficult, SAF struggled to get his targets in last couple of seasons. He has his fault, he left unbalanced team to completely rookie and manager who flopped.
Right. Fergie was much, much better than Moyes. He knew his strengths and weaknesses, Moyes didn't. Even though, he should have bought a midfielder, not only to help himself, but also to soften a transition. That's why some of United fans were annoyed when Gill said he's gone too.Embarrassing points tbh. Fergie didn't buy CM for 5 years, so what he still won the league because he knew how to. New manager should buy CM if he feels the current team is not good enough.
Still Fergie being Fergie planned long term and signed Powell. Also major dent in Fergie's planning was Pogba leaving and Morrison not improving his attitude. Would have been dream scenario.
Now now, thinking that the likes of Evans, Jones, Kagawa, Januzaj etc are backups AT BEST is certainly wrong. Calm down and take a look at what you've said then come again.
Right. Fergie was much, much better than Moyes. He knew his strengths and weaknesses, Moyes didn't. Even though, he should have bought a midfielder, not only to help himself, but also to soften a transition. That's why some of United fans were annoyed when Gill said he's gone too.
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IIRC Gill announced his departure in Feb, so that's 4 months for Woodward to know what should be done.
Also after all the years of service Gill and Fergie deserves their retirement/change of role. Yes both going at the same time was a big blow but according to few reports Moyes was not even sure about his targets which made Woodward task even harder (read somewhere not sure where).
Fergie was happy with his squad and we all know midfield was the big weakness, at least he left money and space for new manager to buy player of his choice.
Patience my friend window not open yet. Plus LVG said he wants 4 signings done by the week he comes back.Where the **** is Woody and the supposed two major signings before the WC he mentioned? Clock is ticking.
Where the **** is Woody and the supposed two major signings before the WC he mentioned? Clock is ticking.