20million is not even worth what De Gea would give us for a season, effectively him getting us CL last gave us £70m+ at least.
They are playing hardball for Ramos just the same, only difference is they are being ludicrous with how much they went as much as £60m is just stupidly overpricing. He's worth £30m at the most, we've already bid £28m.
Madrid offering £20m on the other hand is insulting, if they offer something that he's worth £30m minimum then we'd probably accept. Having said that I think we still want to keep him more than anything for this season, even if we get nothing for him next.