The Manchester United Thread

Alcaraz said:
Yes but as you yourself said if these moved were 'impossible' in the first place regardless of high you bid, why waste time over them? To leak it to the press and potray Woody as the biggest mover and shaker in football

Also Woody appointed LVG and Moyes so he takes blame for their failures as well
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You never know until you try.

Moyes was appointed by previous regime. Gill SAF and charlton. Woodward just was appointed as CEO when Gil stepped down in feb, Van Gaal appointment was by woody though.

Alcaraz said:
What do you mean club lost nothing? They directed time, attention and resources towards signing a player who was clearly leading them on. As you yourself said, well played for player and agent and embarassing for woody.

Also I never said United never bid for Neymar. They probably have done sometime in the past. Just that they used that as an excuse to cover up Woody's trip to Barcelona once Chelsea hijacked Pedro from under his nose
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Embarrassing for woody because agent used his name? ManUtd completed 6 signing that summer, how much time did you think agent spent with woody? Just because it was saga in the media doesn't mean woody sat with agent everyday. Woody said what we can pay to Ramos and agent negotiated better contract with madrid.

Re Pedro, 20million was nothing for club and koeman confirmed we made multiple bids for Mane..

Neymar sr said we made bid in the summer. Pinky over who is making excuses to cover up is you.
 
zzeezzy said:
Why do we even need Matic, with a midfield of him and Schneiderlin/Carrick we'll never get out of our own half.
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I would not mind in a 3 tbh. Then let Schniederlin do what we wanted him to do and play BTB like at Southampton. Matic beating it in front of the back 4 then Rooney or Gomez creating and getting forward. Plus those 2 would allow the front 3 to just play where they want roaming interchanging.
 
This idea that a club loses time resources doesn't actually work by the way. It's not like you are stuck on a phone for 3 weeks
 
Alcaraz said:
What do you mean club lost nothing? They directed time, attention and resources towards signing a player who was clearly leading them on. As you yourself said, well played for player and agent and embarassing for woody.

Also I never said United never bid for Neymar. They probably have done sometime in the past. Just that they used that as an excuse to cover up Woody's trip to Barcelona once Chelsea hijacked Pedro from under his nose
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Incorrect. That came out well after pedro and not from the club either. Came straight from neymar senior
 
zzeezzy said:
Why do we even need Matic, with a midfield of him and Schneiderlin/Carrick we'll never get out of our own half.
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Matic is an aggressive ball closer. You can play him with Carrick as the playmaker, or play an aggressive defensive pivot with schneiderlin, or combine him with and all action Herrera for a complete midfield. Or you can build a monster 3 man mid. Massive personell and tactical upgrade on Fellaini. Chelsea would be silly to sell imo
 
Alcaraz said:
I certainly cannot remember Gill boasting about United's prowess in the transfer market in such a in-your-face manner that Woodward has been doing the past few seasons. Also another thing that helped Gill is that United actually won trophies regularly under his reign which backed up these supposed comments about transfer war chest that you claimed he was making. Also Mike stated himself that Woody talks big which made most fans eventually dillusioned when things were not reproduced on the pitch and I just added onto that so not sure where you get this idea that I have a problem with Woodward ...
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Gill actually did. He always said united had the resources to compete financially for top players if i do recall
 
Tyton said:
Di Maria never even wanted to be here, Falcao is a retired pensioner posing as footballer, and jury's out on Bastian. Some high profile signings mate.



But they were not the kind of quality players both Moyes and LVG were promised. As usual butthurt causes your reading comprehension to go below zero.



Correct. He talked big, spent big...and signed small. Great success.



Van Gaal has spend last 2 years talking about how the team lacks fast creative player, and how United desperately need one. And guess what. You still don't have one. Moyes got zero backing in the market all together. But evidently you know better what players manager wanted, than the managers themselves.



What The **** are you even talking about. It's literally Woodward's job to run the business side of things and make deals happen. That's not manager's responsibility. Managers identify the targets, they go to Woodward, he spends summer after summer embarrassing himself launching failed bids. Both Moyes and LVG were left in the dust without the players they were promised, and somehow they're to blame? Are you off your meds again?




It's a pubiically traded company, manager can't just go around saying "we have no money for transfers, we're ******". But sure, they always had the money, totally. Bringing Scholes out of retirement was also due to "lack of value on the market", because Fergie just didn't see a point of using his multi-million, always available warchest, on someone who will actually have legs.

Sweet mother of Christ, you're as thick as elephant's foreskin.
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There's a reason martial was bought mate. You also said it was woodward's job to make the bale and muller deals work. That's non sense. Those 2 players are integral to their respective clubs who are power houses in world football and would never take a step down like that regardless of how much *** kissing and money talking woodward had to do. That's just a fact

You've got to be realistic with your targets and LVG was not...that's not woodward's fault.
 
Guys, anybody here who follows the BBVA regularly and has any clue (apart from the mirror articles) if this Bailly guy does worth the 32 million?
 
razielioux said:
Guys, anybody here who follows the BBVA regularly and has any clue (apart from the mirror articles) if this Bailly guy does worth the 32 million?
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Di Marzio saying its 32m euros 18m ish up font the rest in bonus instalments. Yes he is worth that much.
 
razielioux said:
Guys, anybody here who follows the BBVA regularly and has any clue (apart from the mirror articles) if this Bailly guy does worth the 32 million?
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Given Jose's success with centre backs, yes, very much so
 
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