The Manchester United Thread

[Theatre of dreams]

Fecking international breaks! Been talking about the game to a mate and Pool fan and then we realised it was another break. Hope nobody comes back injured. Even Pool players, don't wish injuries on anyone. And want a proper full blooded Derby not been one of those for a long time.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

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[Scouseinthehouse]

Ahhhh, Alphonso Davies. The new 'Freddy Adu' who 'claims' to be 15 but looks and has the body of a 25 year old. (Funny how ages get lost along with papers in Africa.).

That's another major club 'supposedly' interested. His agent is working hard.

 

[RhQQ]

Less pressing/running, less meaningless passing/possession, much more directness & attacking intent from the Red Devils - exactly what we've wanted to see since the departure of Sir Alex. The best part? Jose & these boys are only together all of five minutes, and will only continue to get better & better, with most of them gradually becoming deprogrammed from the "philosophy" and the big names signing starting to gel nicely. You can see game by game our understanding is improving vastly, some of the passing interplay lately is mouth watering at times, particularly in the final third (could've had a dream goal against Stoke; Ibra -> Lingard -> Pogba -> just wide of the post).

I know this sounds so negative, as we're only in October, but I can't wait until next season lol - I fancy Mourinho to have us much stronger with a year in the clock. But that still doesn't mean I'm ruling us out doing anything this season!

Hurry up international break, be done with so we can get these boys back together again, and no injuries please.

 

[Death Ball]

Regarding distance run, I'd say not only less pressing, but incorporating a thought on basketball defending, it means to me a more efficient defensive system. I guess in football with the systems of high pressing and so, that stat may not be as indicative of good defensive system as in basketball; but in my view, defender running hard means a defender who wasn't in the right spot having to compensate that with speed to recover. The better defensive system, the less the players will need to run in haste in defence.

 

[RhQQ]

Another stat I couldn't help but love from that Sky Sports article was; "They've hit 179 crosses so far this season (second in the Premier League) compared with just 123 at the same stage in 2015/16 (17th), and five of their 13 goals have come from deliveries from wide. But crossing isn't necessarily a Mourinho trademark. In his title-winning campaign with Chelsea, he made just 18 on average per game, the second-lowest in the Premier League."

He recognizes United have a tradition, and so far it appears he's more than willing to meet the club half way in terms of what's expected from the team, yet still looking to add his trade-mark physical/rigid factor too.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Regarding distance run, I'd say not only less pressing, but incorporating a thought on basketball defending, it means to me a more efficient defensive system. I guess in football with the systems of high pressing and so, that stat may not be as indicative of good defensive system as in basketball; but in my view, defender running hard means a defender who wasn't in the right spot having to compensate that with speed to recover. The better defensive system, the less the players will need to run in haste in defence.

True save for the distance run stat is from the whole team during a game at every point on the pitch.

..... He recognizes United have a tradition, and so far it appears he's more than willing to meet the club half way in terms of what's expected from the team, yet still looking to add his trade-mark physical/rigid factor too.

I'd view that more of playing to the strengths of the fella' up front about any perceived 'Utd way.' Rshford up there your playing balls in behind for him to run on to.

 

[RhQQ]

I'd view that more of playing to the strengths of the fella' up front

Well, it's true that it's one of Ibrahimovic's strengths, but Diego Costa and in particular, Didier Drogba, are/were both very potent in the air also - yet he didn't really prioritize around it previously if I'm not mistaken? Maybe a little more in the Drogba days with Damien Duff & co.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

Apparently Boonen, Chong, Burkart and Gomes in the top 50 talents in the world according to the Guardian.

 

[damola3]

Regarding distance run, I'd say not only less pressing, but incorporating a thought on basketball defending, it means to me a more efficient defensive system. I guess in football with the systems of high pressing and so, that stat may not be as indicative of good defensive system as in basketball; but in my view, defender running hard means a defender who wasn't in the right spot having to compensate that with speed to recover. The better defensive system, the less the players will need to run in haste in defence.

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This was before the last matchday. Pressing from United is decent but ours is shocking.

 

[wkdsoul]

Apparently Boonen, Chong, Burkart and Gomes in the top 50 talents in the world according to the Guardian.

Least you know the new scouting/poaching academy works.

Good summer for the youth scout bonuses.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Least you know the new scouting/poaching academy works.

Good summer for the youth scout bonuses.

You'll only know it's working if any of the intake either makes the first team squad, or develops to sufficient a level that you can move them on for a small profit to make the academy self sustainable. And the same with the next cycle.

That should be the aim.

 

[wkdsoul]

You'll only know it's working if any of the intake either makes the first team squad, or develops to sufficient a level that you can move them on for a small profit to make the academy self sustainable. And the same with the next cycle.

That should be the aim.

They've scouted and identified the 4 or 5 of most regarded youngsters and got them over, its a decent start from where they were getting left behind by Arsenal/Chelsea/Barca and then even MCFC that has sparked this.

They development from here on is the secondary issue. They don't have to make the first team (although that's the main goal), its too generate cash as well, city got 15mil for 2 reserves barely 10-15 1st team games between em.

Many have seen the Chelsea model for loan money against FFP. Its a tidy albeit useful loophole nowadays. Get the loan club to pay 100% of the wage and get a monthly sum on your books. Its a beautiful yet money driven game..

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Which is pretty much what I said.

A self funding academy should be the aim.

Sorry developing better footballers should be the aim. The self funding comes out of that.

 

[wkdsoul]

Which is pretty much what I said.

A self funding academy should be the aim.

Sorry developing better footballers should be the aim. The self funding comes out of that.

Sorry on phone only saw the first line, ******* dumbass screeen...

 

[Theatre of dreams]

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[Death Ball]

True save for the distance run stat is from the whole team during a game at every point on the pitch.

Yeah, that's the other thing that even if those thoughts are also correct in football, the stat includes movement at any other phase, every player and area, isn't a number that correlates uniquely to defending. While a good defence might mean less running, the attack tends to require more movement, as without movement you can't disturb the defensive organization. A team with less than average distance run can be one with a very good defensive system or one with a very poor offensive system.

 

[Legend Incredible]

True save for the distance run stat is from the whole team during a game at every point on the pitch.



I'd view that more of playing to the strengths of the fella' up front about any perceived 'Utd way.' Rshford up there your playing balls in behind for him to run on to.

Idk. Mourinho has had strikers of the build of Drogba and Diego costa, yet he hasn't crossed as much before

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[Theatre of dreams]

Isco confirmed that he won't leave in Jan but admits if by next Summer he's not played much he will push to leave and also said his agent has spoke to us recently on Spanish radio yesterday. Also said he loved playing under Mou and has a very good relationship with him.

 

[MANUMAD]

Regarding distance run, I'd say not only less pressing, but incorporating a thought on basketball defending, it means to me a more efficient defensive system. I guess in football with the systems of high pressing and so, that stat may not be as indicative of good defensive system as in basketball; but in my view, defender running hard means a defender who wasn't in the right spot having to compensate that with speed to recover. The better defensive system, the less the players will need to run in haste in defence.

Yes. Mourinho has long incorporated basket ball principles. I remember when he first came to England how many goals Chelsea scored from crosses by utilising "screening" ie have one person block he defender so that another can move behind and play the ball without being pressed.