The Manchester United Thread

game over.now turn my attention to my seven year old boy who is sitting through this garbage
 
Most sad I am about De Gea, should have skipped town when there was some change.
 
De Gea
Dalot, Bailly, Lindelof/Smalling/Jones/Rojo, Shaw
Matic
Fred, Pogba
Sanchez, Lukaku, Martial

Maybe if Carrick does step in interim, he'll simply play our best 11 & system?
 
Mourinho comments about McTominay and Martial were utter bollocks.

U18s won there cup game 0-1 against Newcastle. The youngest u18 team we’ve played I reckon. Elanga scored. Lot of u16s in the squad today and Greenwood rested
 
RhQQ said:
How is Souness still in a job? Given a platform to attack Pogba at every given opportunity, even when coming off the back of being a key player in a World Cup victory and enjoying a great start to the season. It's getting boring now, obviously has it in for the lad for no legit reason, coming across as borderline discrimination if you ask me. Too old-fashioned and narrow minded to see a dancing black guy who loves and breathes football with a smile on his face, be better than he ever was? Wants everyone to be a shy, introverted Kante? An aggressor like Keane/Viera? Get with the times Grandad.

Mourinho needs to put him in his place like with Zlatan/Michael Owen. As much as you can disagree with Neville & Carragher's analysis/criticism now and again, at least they're non-biased, genuine opinions, in which you can see where they're making a case from. With Souness, Pogba could score a hat-trick in a Champions League final and he'd say "he still didn't show enough desire, and he should have had 5".
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Just saw this now and nothing against your opinion wether Souness is making this personal about Pogba. But just wanted to point out that Pogba would trip over trying to lace Souness's boots. Souness will go down as one of the greatest midfielders to ever play the game and was arguably better than Gerrard and that says alot. Souness is still a ***** though.
 
dilakh2 said:
Just saw this now and nothing against your opinion wether Souness is making this personal about Pogba. But just wanted to point out that Pogba would trip over trying to lace Souness's boots. Souness will go down as one of the greatest midfielders to ever play the game and was arguably better than Gerrard and that says alot. Souness is still a ***** though.
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I didn't mean it literally. I know he was a good player in his day, and I can't even stand by any comparison as I've never seen him live, I just used some hyperbole at the time to help express my annoyance.

Mind you, I do have a lot of older LFC friends & family who say Gerrard's undoubtedly the best CM your club has produced, and that football has came on planets in terms of levels of quality/players these days. Heck, CM's could do a 180 turn and knock it back to their keeper back then:

https://twitter.com/utdxtra/status/962663876461555712
 
RhQQ said:
I didn't mean it literally. I know he was a good player in his day, and I can't even stand by any comparison as I've never seen him live, I just used some hyperbole at the time to help express my annoyance.

Mind you, I do have a lot of older LFC friends & family who say Gerrard's undoubtedly the best CM your club has produced, and that football has came on planets in terms of levels of quality/players these days. Heck, CM's could do a 180 turn and knock it back to their keeper back then:

https://twitter.com/utdxtra/status/962663876461555712
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Its hard to compare different era's as like you said football has changed what with the backpass rule and fitness etc. Gerrard is with Fowler the best we produced but taking of the rose tinted glasses Gerrard never reached his full potential and should have been alot better than he was and thats saying something. Scouse will probably be better placed to answer this question as I bet he probably saw Billy Liddlle play :P
 
[FONT=&quot]I’m really surprised anyone older would even suggest that Rh. REALLY surprised given the absolute reverence he’s held in
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[FONT=&quot]He’s well arguably one of the 5 finest central midfielders to ever play in a Eurooean Cup final. He was honestly THAT good. Not just as an all round player who had it all but as a leader of men. I never saw Hughes play but Emlyn aside, we’ve NEVER. had a better captain than Souness. 1984, the first treble winning season, is almost solely down to him. You’d look at the stats and say ‘Behave lad. Rushie got 47 goals that year. He was next highest with 12!’ But in reality the amount of games he pulled that side together in and won through sheer will alone was ridiculous. Kenny breaks his collarbone, along with starting to become a lot less prolific as the main goalscorer, and there were a lot of games the clear best side in Europe at the time looked distinctly average in. But the captain grabbed everyone by the scruff of the neck and pulled them through in so many games that were dogged out. And the more hostile the environment, the better he became! None better exemplified by the semi final and final in Europe that season. The semi first leg at Anfield against Dinamo Bucharest, this Romanian hard man rakes his studs down the back of Kenny’s calf. Puts the star man out early. Job done. Except Souness didn’t forget ..... not long after, the same fella is in a heap as Souness gets blindside of both ref and lino and breaks his jaw in 12 places! You get one of ours, be **** sure the Captain will get one of yours! Which then lead to hostility the second leg that makes places like Istanbul look postively welcoming. ALL directed toward Souness from the minute L’pool landed. Lesser men would have naturally wilted but he relished it. Came off the pitch black and blue from some horrendous assaults. Spat at and had all sorts thrown at him every time he was anywhere near the crowd. But utterly dominant in leading the club to his third Eurooean Cup Final. To then go top that and lead them to what I personally believe is the greatest ever Eurioean Cup victory in the competitons history. Against Roma. In their own back yard in one of the most hostile, intimidating atmispheres you could imagine. Heysel starts that night with the viscous assaults on many Reds but thats another story. Souness dominated some great, old school Italians and WC Brazilians of the time like Falcao to take his side into the Lions den and emerge victorious with the biggest prize of all.
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[FONT=&quot]Not only the single hardest player I’ve ever seen live and the best captain, but I’m hard pressed to think of any central midfielder that compares. This was an era when midfielders did it all both ends the park and he was as complete as they come. Who could play the game anyway you wanted it. [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Most of our Da’s will tell you hes Liverpool’s greatest ever player. Just like most Utd Da’s will tell you there’s never been a midfielder/ captain like Bryan Robson. (The best in that position I’ve evee seen from Utd personally. Another superb all rounder who was tough as nails. And like Souness could take it as well as give it.).
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[FONT=&quot]Gerrard and Pogba are two modern day greats. And I’m sure they'd have adapted to the ‘70’s/ ‘80’s game like the likes of Souness and Robson would have todays.
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[FONT=&quot]But pound for pound, both as conplete, all round WC central midfielders who did it all and were supreme leaders, I’d take Robson and Souness over Gerrard and Pogba all day, every day.
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[FONT=&quot]And thats no slight on todays lads whi are two of the Worlds best. Just testiment to everything the other two had and more. [/FONT]
 
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