I’ve been pleasantly surprised with his movement. He’s been offering runs, halting runs & attacking space - which will only improve with mins & experience. Personally think he’s got the higher ceiling in terms of being a clinical #9. Rashford has more tools but it doesn’t really translate to efficiency.
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I’ve been pleasantly surprised with his movement. He’s been offering runs, halting runs & attacking space - which will only improve with mins & experience. Personally think he’s got the higher ceiling in terms of being a clinical #9. Rashford has more tools but it doesn’t really translate to efficiency.
I suspect because he's being coached by a manager whose movement as a striker was exceptional. Previously there is no way I'd have had him as a centre forward over Rashford
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It wasn't too far back when you and I were the only ones in here saying how ridiculous it was neither Martial nor Rashford were being taught/ moulded into #9's as both had the ideal skill set. Instead of being stuck wide just because they are both rapid. Only to be shouted down.
That soon flipped huh?
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Er.... Martial and Rashford have very different skill sets. Most people saw Rashford as a 9 who needed to bide his time. Martial was nowhere near that, and still has average movement, which he needed to understand he had to develop
The only reason its even beginning because he's being directly coached on his movement. Something that hasn't happened since he arrived. And he's still not a better forward than either Rashford, or movement wise, Greenwood. He's got a long way to go after 2 games. As Ole said" if you want to play as a striker, you have to move like one" After 2 years, he's finally understanding that
Also telling that Rashford is very creative off the left wing, hence the pass for the goal
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Er ..... No. You argued vehemently that Rashford shouldn't be played/ developed as a 9 against me. Not to mention Martial. Which was also around the same time, as he wasn't utilising either as a forward, you were defending Mourinho with me against what everyone outside Utd could see. That soon flipped as well.
So bore off with the revisionist history when it comes back on you mate ay?
So bore off with the revisionist history when it comes back on you mate ay?
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**** off with that bore off nonsense scouse, I actually said we should have rotated him more with Lukaku. Martial is the one who I said shouldnt be used as a forward until his movement got a lot better. He was awful when he played there previously, because of said lack of movement, he needed to look at players like aguero. But then you're the person who tried to argue your own head data analyst was wrong about your midfield
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Touchy. Don't say things if you don't want them coming back up.
And I tried to argue what now?
As with most everything, it went completely over your head in your zeal to be proved right on nothing more than an opinion.
And I tried to argue what now?
As with most everything, it went completely over your head in your zeal to be proved right on nothing more than an opinion.
Not touchy at all. Just find the way you pretend people aren't understanding when you've got no legs to stand on a bit dull. It's really weird gaslighting behaviour
You claimed the Liverpool midfield was one of the toughest to play in pretty much said anyone saying otherwise didn't understand.
I cited your own club head of data as saying otherwise and you went silent. The irony of you accusing anyone of wanting to be right.
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I don't have a leg to stand on? 'Sake.
Well that sure told me for having the gall to bring up your previous B/S which you're now completely contradicting.
And I left my response to Rh completely ambiguous. Which you jumped on. But yer know, I came out guns blazing at yer and all that.
Never let the truth get in the way of a good tale.
Well that sure told me for having the gall to bring up your previous B/S which you're now completely contradicting.
And I left my response to Rh completely ambiguous. Which you jumped on. But yer know, I came out guns blazing at yer and all that.
Never let the truth get in the way of a good tale.
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Didn't jump on at all. You're the one who said bore off? Hence my reply
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Just seen the edit.
I left it as the conversation was just going around in circles on opinion and conjecture. With you no more inclined to accept any other opinion than the one you've formed whilst vainly trying to claim some analytical superior view. Ala the absolute bunkum here again about me 'not having a leg to stand on' as you don't agree. (Or don't like what you argued coming back to bite you on the ****.).
Didn't realise I needed to respond to every post. My bad.
Hey add me to that list, I've hated every minute with Lukaku up there, don't tell me you didn't notice.
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Last week, Abraham misses a penalty. Gets called the N-word along with some other vile racist abuse.
Now, Pogba misses a penalty. Get's called the N-word and is subject to more vile racist abuse.
This is 2019 right? In 'supposedly' multi-cultural, tolerant Britain? WTF is wrong with people? Absolutely despicable. They should name, shame and then severely punish those low life scumbags perpetrating this. Gutless S/houses from behind a screen.
Sickens and disgusts you reading that happening again to Pogba last night.
Seriously, WTF is wrong with people?
Now, Pogba misses a penalty. Get's called the N-word and is subject to more vile racist abuse.
This is 2019 right? In 'supposedly' multi-cultural, tolerant Britain? WTF is wrong with people? Absolutely despicable. They should name, shame and then severely punish those low life scumbags perpetrating this. Gutless S/houses from behind a screen.
Sickens and disgusts you reading that happening again to Pogba last night.
Seriously, WTF is wrong with people?
Social media is an easier place to hide, I think Harry Maguire made a good point, why not ID anyone and insist on verified accounts to use social media? For example to sign up on twitter you should show proof of a passport or Driving License and only then can you have an account.
Agree with the idea of doing something about it but **** the passport /driving license is the WORST idea ever. Was suprised people were agreeing with it in the replies to the tweet that is some Orwellian nightmare. I wouldn't trust twitter, Insta etc with my personal data at all.
Maybe, but there really needs to be a way of having direct access to these people/accounts that are created, be responsible for your actions as much as in real life.
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Racism, misogyny, etc., have nothing to do with the internet/social media, and have everything to do with education. The internet is just a means to an end. As a public person, as soon as you create your account on any platform, you put a target on your back, for every moron to take a shot at you.
I myself am a part of a minority in the country I live in, and have been subjected so all sorts of abuse for as long as I can remember. My advice to anyone going through the same or similar: ignore them. If you let yourself be affected by their hate, they won. From my experience, nothing ****** these people off more, than their hatred landing on deaf ears. Laugh it off, like Sterling did. Absolutely loved it when he just smiled in the face of those old hate spewing ******** that call themselves Chelsea fans.
I know this isn't the place for this kind of talk, but it's been an issues in football lately, and it's a **** shame these kind of things make it to newspaper headlines.
I myself am a part of a minority in the country I live in, and have been subjected so all sorts of abuse for as long as I can remember. My advice to anyone going through the same or similar: ignore them. If you let yourself be affected by their hate, they won. From my experience, nothing ****** these people off more, than their hatred landing on deaf ears. Laugh it off, like Sterling did. Absolutely loved it when he just smiled in the face of those old hate spewing ******** that call themselves Chelsea fans.
I know this isn't the place for this kind of talk, but it's been an issues in football lately, and it's a **** shame these kind of things make it to newspaper headlines.
I take your point, but I definitely think social media is now a vehicle to drive hate without having to take any proper responsibility.
The internet has given a voice to every idiot on the planet, but they were idiots nonetheless. Yes, the curtain of anonymity lets you get away with anything, but honestly, does it really affect you what ShagYourNana69 from GodKnowsWhere really thinks or says of you? These are non-stories the media digs up, because it gets the people riled up. Promoting idiots at it's finest.
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There should still be some simple form of accountability and punishment for abhorrent on-line/ social media abuse of this nature that goes straight to the authorities.
If you can't get away with it in the street without consequences, you shouldn't be able to with anonymity behind a screen.