The Manchester United Thread

[Bujakaa92]

The internet has given a voice to every idiot on the planet, but they were idiots nonetheless. Yes, the curtain of anonymity lets you get away with anything, but honestly, does it really affect you what ShagYourNana69 from GodKnowsWhere really thinks or says of you? These are non-stories the media digs up, because it gets the people riled up. Promoting idiots at it's finest.

But you have to take into account who are using also these social media sites. Children wont understand so easily what is said wrong in those threads. It also comes down to education and environment/parents. But the influence twitter for example gives is huge i think. Add some youtube/twitch videos where people play games and might be more directed to racism. Twitch is working on this and gives hard ban to these people but this content is still available to people who are easily manipulated.

About catching people who say these things. That is easy even if they would try to hide their *** with some free/cheap VPN, but will they do it? Nope. Noone wants to use so much resources on catching so many twitter hate messages, but it would give out huge signal.

 

[Andras99]

But you have to take into account who are using also these social media sites. Children wont understand so easily what is said wrong in those threads. It also comes down to education and environment/parents. But the influence twitter for example gives is huge i think. Add some youtube/twitch videos where people play games and might be more directed to racism. Twitch is working on this and gives hard ban to these people but this content is still available to people who are easily manipulated.

About catching people who say these things. That is easy even if they would try to hide their *** with some free/cheap VPN, but will they do it? Nope. Noone wants to use so much resources on catching so many twitter hate messages, but it would give out huge signal.

There are billions of accounts on social media platforms, and as you said, it would just be cost inefficient for companies to do it. It brings absolutely no profit whatsoever, so they won't do it. You lost money by hiring people to verify people's data, and then again you lose money by tracking down these so called offenders and bringing them to justice. It's a lose - lose scenario for them. Banning accounts is the only viable solution from their behalf, as far as I can see it.

And honestly now, how many of you would actually give your personal information to a social media site, forum? I sure as **** wouldn't. Not because I am an offender, or I plan on insulting people, but simply because the internet is not a safe space to keep sensitive information.

 

[Bujakaa92]

There are billions of accounts on social media platforms, and as you said, it would just be cost inefficient for companies to do it. It brings absolutely no profit whatsoever, so they won't do it. You lost money by hiring people to verify people's data, and then again you lose money by tracking down these so called offenders and bringing them to justice. It's a lose - lose scenario for them. Banning accounts is the only viable solution from their behalf, as far as I can see it.

And honestly now, how many of you would actually give your personal information to a social media site, forum? I sure as **** wouldn't. Not because I am an offender, or I plan on insulting people, but simply because the internet is not a safe space to keep sensitive information.

Ofcourse you dont want to have info in strange sites. But this is possible to push from law. Just like GDPR, there could be something that site owner must take responsibility if this kind of styff is happening. yes this thin line with freedom of speach but somehow it should be pushed by law that for example Twitter handles these things more. Ban wont help that much, tracking down IP etc will start stopping this. But this means coordination with different country law enforcement etc. So yeah, this wont be happening any time soon. Or just start banning IP or tracker in browser this I dont understand why is not happening. Online commercial are using IP info and browser tracking to see our activities, should be easy to ban that way.( I have worked in online media platform)

I remember in Estonia some news sites did this and located online newspaper hate commentators down and let the directed person contact them, they where shamed and scared.

 

[dilakh2]

There are billions of accounts on social media platforms, and as you said, it would just be cost inefficient for companies to do it. It brings absolutely no profit whatsoever, so they won't do it. You lost money by hiring people to verify people's data, and then again you lose money by tracking down these so called offenders and bringing them to justice. It's a lose - lose scenario for them. Banning accounts is the only viable solution from their behalf, as far as I can see it.

And honestly now, how many of you would actually give your personal information to a social media site, forum? I sure as **** wouldn't. Not because I am an offender, or I plan on insulting people, but simply because the internet is not a safe space to keep sensitive information.

One of the best things about the internet is the anonymity and losing that because of small section of idiots who cower behind there screens an hurls abuse wont solved anything. You only have to look at the way repressive states have tortured and killed people for posting things online. Also there are a majority of people posting online that are provided refuge by this anonymity. Stuff like tracking IP addresses and browser activities and throwing away our rights to privacy over something like this is just wrong on so many levels just because of racist idiots online is a BIG no no for me.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Absolutely buzzing for the Palace match. They have been absolutely dreadful there first 2 games. And we have been very encouraging showing signs of what this young team could be under Ole. No games easy and all but think this could be a tonking by 3/4 goals. OT will be buzzing and I hope Pogba gets absolutely fantastic support and rips Palace an absolute new one


Just seen no new injuries from last week.

 

[JonoMUFC]

Absolutely buzzing for the Palace match. They have been absolutely dreadful there first 2 games. And we have been very encouraging showing signs of what this young team could be under Ole. No games easy and all but think this could be a tonking by 3/4 goals. OT will be buzzing and I hope Pogba gets absolutely fantastic support and rips Palace an absolute new one


Just seen no new injuries from last week.

A welcome change in topic.

Agreed hoping we put palace to the sword and continue the growth we've shown in the first 2 games

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

A welcome change in topic.

Agreed hoping we put palace to the sword and continue the growth we've shown in the first 2 games

Agreed don’t get why some people are so angry at the Wolves draw. Especially after last seasons woes there where they literally played us off the park. Baring 15 min spell for them at the start of the second half it was the complete opposite. Will be a good point come the end of the season. Especially the amount of teams that drop more points there.

 

[JonoMUFC]

Agreed don’t get why some people are so angry at the Wolves draw. Especially after last seasons woes there where they literally played us off the park. Baring 15 min spell for them at the start of the second half it was the complete opposite. Will be a good point come the end of the season. Especially the amount of teams that drop more points there.

Martial is playing better, I mean Pogba missed a penalty so all in all we should have won and you're right wolves did not dictate the play we did. Early season game which showed progress which as a rebuilding side is what we all should want to see

 

[zzeezzy]

Agreed don’t get why some people are so angry at the Wolves draw. Especially after last seasons woes there where they literally played us off the park. Baring 15 min spell for them at the start of the second half it was the complete opposite. Will be a good point come the end of the season. Especially the amount of teams that drop more points there.

Dunno really, last season it seemed similar, we had more possession and couldn't break them down in first half especially. Not even sure Wolves will be as good as people expect again this season, with Europa League that will hit them like it does everyone.

It's progress in the sense that we got the point rather than last season when we lost, but I still felt disappointed that with all the possession we did have, we couldn't create more. This is where I feel we may struggle this season, against teams who sit deep and with our lack of spark in midfield if you take Pogba away.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Dunno really, last season it seemed similar, we had more possession and couldn't break them down in first half especially. Not even sure Wolves will be as good as people expect again this season, with Europa League that will hit them like it does everyone.

It's progress in the sense that we got the point rather than last season when we lost, but I still felt disappointed that with all the possession we did have, we couldn't create more. This is where I feel we may struggle this season, against teams who sit deep and with our lack of spark in midfield if you take Pogba away.

Most of the match they didn’t have a sniff especially on the counter from which is polar opposites of last season. NO team creates many chances against Wolves especially at home. They are super well drilled

 

[Mike.]

Dunno really, last season it seemed similar, we had more possession and couldn't break them down in first half especially. Not even sure Wolves will be as good as people expect again this season, with Europa League that will hit them like it does everyone.

It's progress in the sense that we got the point rather than last season when we lost, but I still felt disappointed that with all the possession we did have, we couldn't create more. This is where I feel we may struggle this season, against teams who sit deep and with our lack of spark in midfield if you take Pogba away.

We're definitely better. And we already have that answer, which is why we should have started Mata. I hope he starts against Palce

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Big game today reds. Gonna be a tough one especially with one fit CM. Happy the sites back up.

 

[zzeezzy]

Dafuq happened to this site, totally wiped from Google and seemingly loads of posts have been removed.

 

[Bujakaa92]

Dafuq happened to this site, totally wiped from Google and seemingly loads of posts have been removed.

About the recent downtime and data loss

It's been a rough week. Here's what we have to say.

fm-base.co.uk

NB! the link seems loading but works.

It is crazy to think how much we relay into servers etc. In our games, movies, pictures, etc

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Big game today reds. Gonna be a tough one especially with one fit CM. Happy the sites back up.

Sheffield United gave us by far and away the toughest game we've had all season. Let's put it this way, we won't have to work harder to win any football match than we had to there a few months back.

Wilder has them superbly drilled and the spirit within the group to go full out for the full 90 is superb. Nothing but the utmost admiration for what he's doing there. All they lack, naturally, is that lil' bit of extra quality to convert chances but all things being equal, they won't be in ANY danger of going down this season.

Nobody should be fooled by 'it's only Sheffield United.' They are where they are on merit and proper hard graft.

 

[zzeezzy]

Sheffield United gave us by far and away the toughest game we've had all season. Let's put it this way, we won't have to work harder to win any football match than we had to there a few months back.

Wilder has them superbly drilled and the spirit within the group to go full out for the full 90 is superb. Nothing but the utmost admiration for what he's doing there. All they lack, naturally, is that lil' bit of extra quality to convert chances but all things being equal, they won't be in ANY danger of going down this season.

Nobody should be fooled by 'it's only Sheffield United.' They are where they are on merit and proper hard graft.

Be good to see them today as well, Wilder seems to be gaining a bit of a reputation.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Just to catch up on some results.

U23s won 3-0 at OT against Middlesbrough on Friday infront of a good crowd Ramanzani with 2 and Levitt with one.

Our youngest ever u18s side put out drew 1-1 to top of the cup table Brighton. Shola Shortire with our goal. 5 debuts including 69 gl signing Meija from Zaragoza in the summer. Unluckily went off after rolling his ankle.

And the Women’s won in the cup 11-1 on Thursday night. And are currently 1-0 up in the WSL1 after James scored.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Interested to see no Gomes, Chong feature for the u23s. Expect to see them in the squad today or starting midweek.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

2-0 mow to the women’s team Galton with the second. Good assist by Zelem.

 

[Legend Incredible]

With the website down for a few days, we haven't talked about a number of topics ?