The Manchester United Thread

Perez is like a spoilt kid, with football players his accessible toys. Tactics and team suitability don't matter, big names do..//

In fairness, he is one of the best negotiators in football, when he isn't controlling the funds.
 
I think everyone agrees that this squad on paper is one of the best in the world, but football isn't just about paper and there are other things that come in to play. We want top 4, that is our goal. To get back to the top. I don't understand why you keep telling us what our expectations should be. Obviously we would love to win the title and be title challengers but right now we aren't there as we are still gelling. It is not a looser mentality it is realistic. Come Jan if were in the running great go all out and do the best we can to win. Expectations change based on current circumstances and basing your expectations on anything but the current circumstance is ridiculous.

I certainly see where you are coming from mate. I guess I am just annoyed when some fans (not you) are happy to mock Chelsea and other clubs when they say that they are happy with Top 4 yet engage in the downplaying of expectations themselves when it suits them
 
He does this a lot. At this point once I realise he's failed to see what I'm talking about, I usually stop answering him.
It's why when I do talk to Chelsea fans it's the others I talk to. And I now include andreas99 in that. Even I'd we disagree I don't have to worry about my words being twisted.

If I twisted your words then I apologize. I certainly didn't mean to do it. It's how I understood what you were trying to say particularly based on what you said previously in relation to Chelsea as Andras pointed out. Maybe if you clarified what you meant then that would be better. Otherwise I am more than happy to leave the issue alone and move on
 
In fairness, he is one of the best negotiators in football, when he isn't controlling the funds.

Tbf it's not really hard to negotiate when you are fronting a club of Madrid's stature with their unlimited budget and huge revenues
 
EFFIN TYPICAL OF THE GENERAL (ABU) MOOD?


'To sit at Old Trafford on Saturday afternoon and watch Manchester United outplayed by Swansea City was to feel a rising sense of bewilderment,' wrote the Daily Mirror's Oliver Holt on August 19.

'Everyone knew they needed to sign four or five world-class players this summer to have a chance of bridging the gap that had opened up between them and the rest. Instead, they signed two very expensive prospects, Luke Shaw and Ander Herrera - then fiddled while their empire burned. And now the gap between them and the rest has not narrowed. It has widened.'

Writes Oliver Holt in today's Daily Mirror: 'United has gone from a club associated with long-term planning and stability to the ultimate short-term, panic-driven basket case. This summer, they have instituted a galactico policy in all but name. The last few months have been a triumph for style over substance. Give it another six months and they'll be charging fans to get into Old Trafford for the presentation of the next star name.'

So United needed to sign four or five world-class players, but when they do sign world-class players it shows they're a panic-driven basket case? We're glad that's clear.
 
This holds good for all most all the opposition fans and journos.

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Press are a bunch of numpties. No matter what we would have done this window they would have picked holes in it.
 
Really what's the problem with utd spending big? If they don't currently have the players at the club what does the media expect them to just sit back and watch Chelsea/city dominate whilst they give academy players a chance and struggle? I'm more than happy to see utd making these huge signings like Di Maria and Falcao it just makes the best league in the world even more competitive and exciting.
 
This holds good for all most all the opposition fans and journos.

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Tbf we've had years and years of abuse, and bs about how United is different, United is special. So it's kind of amusing to see that your reaction to failure was sacking a manager after a year and spunking vast wads of money in a panic.
 
nothing else to wright about so think i know that thing i said a few weeks ago **** ill say something else to sell my paper
 
Tbf we've had years and years of abuse, and bs about how United is different, United is special. So it's kind of amusing to see that your reaction to failure was sacking a manager after a year and spunking vast wads of money in a panic.

I don't understand how signing Di Maria, Falcao is panic..
 
EFFIN TYPICAL OF THE GENERAL (ABU) MOOD?


'To sit at Old Trafford on Saturday afternoon and watch Manchester United outplayed by Swansea City was to feel a rising sense of bewilderment,' wrote the Daily Mirror's Oliver Holt on August 19.

'Everyone knew they needed to sign four or five world-class players this summer to have a chance of bridging the gap that had opened up between them and the rest. Instead, they signed two very expensive prospects, Luke Shaw and Ander Herrera - then fiddled while their empire burned. And now the gap between them and the rest has not narrowed. It has widened.'

Writes Oliver Holt in today's Daily Mirror: 'United has gone from a club associated with long-term planning and stability to the ultimate short-term, panic-driven basket case. This summer, they have instituted a galactico policy in all but name. The last few months have been a triumph for style over substance. Give it another six months and they'll be charging fans to get into Old Trafford for the presentation of the next star name.'

So United needed to sign four or five world-class players, but when they do sign world-class players it shows they're a panic-driven basket case? We're glad that's clear.

They have signed many players in the same positions and in those positions you already have 'world class talent'

Yes your signings are world class players but the signings themselves did have a bit of panic buying about them and true problems were not really addressed
 
They have signed many players in the same positions and in those positions you already have 'world class talent'

Yes your signings are world class players but the signings themselves did have a bit of panic buying about them and true problems were not really addressed

Again who are the players we signed that didn't strengthen us?

Shaw
Herrera
Rojo
Di Maria
Blind
Falcao

So who are the players we signed where we already had world class talent?
 
Apparently we signed him as no one wanted him..

Radamel Falcao's father has revealed Manchester United beat off competition from City, Liverpool, Arsenal and Juventus to land the Colombian striker on deadline day.
Radamel Garcia said the three Premier League clubs and Juve showed interest in signing the 28-year-old from Monaco - but insists his son has picked a 'great team'.
He said: "Juventus, Manchester City and Liverpool were also interested and Arsenal late on. Fortunately he has ended up at Manchester United, a great team.
"Thank God for everything with Manchester United.
"Radamel is a person that has given a lot in Europe and he deserves the best for the effort and sacrifices he has made during his career.
"United are the most important team in England and one of the most economically powerful.
"Things with Real Madrid did not happen because if you have money to go to the market and buy a shirt or pants, you have to decide whether to buy or not. Real Madrid chose not to."

Falcao's father reveals striker turned down moves to City, Arsenal and Liverpool - Manchester Evening News
 
Again who are the players we signed that didn't strengthen us?

Shaw
Herrera
Rojo
Di Maria
Blind
Falcao

So who are the players we signed where we already had world class talent?

Only 'luxury' signing among that lot is Falcao who you definitely did not need. But then again, hard to pass up the opportunity when a player of his quality is available. I just wonder how LVG will fit RVP, Rooney and Falcao onto the pitch at the same time
 
Again who are the players we signed that didn't strengthen us?

Shaw
Herrera
Rojo
Di Maria
Blind
Falcao

So who are the players we signed where we already had world class talent?


The players have strengthened you, i never said they didn't - the signings have been good but for the money spent a CB and a DM had to be brought in

You could argue a RB potentially as well

Di Maria and Falcao are world class, no disputing that but they play naturally in positions where you already have RVP, Rooney and Mata
 
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