The Manchester United Thread

[MANUMAD]

Top 5 striker choices ZZ go!

1. Kane
2. Lukaku
3. Aubameyang (but good luck to us trying to prize him away.
4. Cavani (dont fancy him much but you said realistic)
5

Top 3 Manager choices

1. Simeone
2. Mourinho
3.

 

[Mike.]

People still havent considered the alternative, that United might finish 4th and still bin LVG, since he only has a year left.

 

[MANUMAD]

My dream 5 Jose signings (none of these will happen)

1) Zlatan (CF)
2) Aubamenyang (RW)
3) Saul Niguez (CM)
4) Laporte (CB)
5) Maksimovic (CB)

I can live with this!!!

 

[Mike.]

What would be serious and realistic targets if you wont make it to CL?

Would still be in Europa league as it stands, so could still tempt 4 from my 5, maybe not Aubamenyang. On the other hand, people are going to look at this season as a freak one with Leicester winning.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

People still havent considered the alternative, that United might finish 4th and still bin LVG, since he only has a year left.

With Woodward, I'm not 100% convinced you could finish outside the top 4 and still bin him until it actually happens. Regardless of the multitude of rumours to the contrary.

 

[Mike.]

With Woodward, I'm not 100% convinced you could finish outside the top 4 and still bin him until it actually happens. Regardless of the multitude of rumours to the contrary.

Nothing is certain in football. But Woodward covets trophy playes and managers. And Jose is right up there, he would take sacking LVG for gaining Jose (and the calibre of players that come with it).

 

[wkdsoul]

Harry Kane

The list of players to score 20 or more goals in consecutive seasons now reads as follows: Alan Shearer, Andy Cole, Robbie Fowler, Les Ferdinand, Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink, Thierry Henry, Ruud van Nistelrooy, Carlos Tevez, Robin van Persie, Luis Suarez and Harry Kane. Kane is the first new English entrant on the list since 1996.
The suspicion that Kane would be a one-season wonder was not one of malice, merely a disbelief that a player could sprint so quickly from a standing start. Kane didn’t score his first Premier League goal until April 2014. Since scoring his first, Kane has managed 44 more in 70. It’s an astonishing record for a 22-year-old.
Should Kane reach 50 goals by the end of the season, hardly an unthinkable achievement, he will have reached the landmark in 86 matches (including his few PL games on loan at Norwich). A selection, by way of comparison:

Alan Shearer – 66 (matches to reach 50 Premier League goals)
Thierry Henry – 83
Luis Suarez – 86
Robbie Fowler – 88
Michael Owen – 98
Carlos Tevez – 126
Robbie Keane – 128
Robin van Persie – 142
Wayne Rooney – 146
Gabriel Agbonlahor – 184


Id say he's well worth 50m after reading this ...

Its almost like football only started in 1990....

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Its almost like football only started in 1990....

*1992. Keep up lightweight. .

 

[Tyton]

I don't even know why would you buy a striker at this point. Rooney/Rashford/Martial will have it covered. A mobile RW who can also play on the left is a top priority I think.

Load of Carrick and Fellaini, get Laporte so Blind can move to CB and rotate with Bastian, add another CM as backup for Schneiderlin, and it should be set.

 

[Mike.]

I don't even know why would you buy a striker at this point. Rooney/Rashford/Martial will have it covered. A mobile RW who can also play on the left is a top priority I think.

Load of Carrick and Fellaini, get Laporte so Blind can move to CB and rotate with Bastian, add another CM as backup for Schneiderlin, and it should be set.

Getting a major CF suggests Rooney is done.

 

[zzeezzy]

I don't even know why would you buy a striker at this point. Rooney/Rashford/Martial will have it covered. A mobile RW who can also play on the left is a top priority I think.

Load of Carrick and Fellaini, get Laporte so Blind can move to CB and rotate with Bastian, add another CM as backup for Schneiderlin, and it should be set.

Wouldn't that be making the same mistake as we did this season though?

Only difference is you are reliant on Rashford, Martial and Rooney to get you enough goals in striker position. Personally don't think Martial will even play as striker much as he is more effective on the left.

So realistically that leaves us two known strikers, I'd say one of our biggest problems this season has been lack of goals and Rooney's lack of contribution for large part of the season. Not getting a striker would be a huge risk and unnecessary in my opinion.

I really think Rooney is done, how much longer do we give a player who very rarely delivers anymore and when he does gets injured.

 

[Mike.]

Wouldn't that be making the same mistake as we did this season though?

Only difference is you are reliant on Rashford, Martial and Rooney to get you enough goals in striker position. Personally don't think Martial will even play as striker much as he is more effective on the left.

So realistically that leaves us two known strikers, I'd say one of our biggest problems this season has been lack of goals and Rooney's lack of contribution for large part of the season. Not getting a striker would be a huge risk and unnecessary in my opinion.

I really think Rooney is done, how much longer do we give a player who very rarely delivers anymore and when he does gets injured.

And now you see why Zlatan appeals. I'm loathe to keep Rooney, but also interested to see what he would be like under Mourinho. I actually think the fast goal scoring right winger is more important. If you have Martial and the RW scoring 15+ each in the league, your life becomes much easier up front.

 

[zzeezzy]

And now you see why Zlatan appeals. I'm loathe to keep Rooney, but also interested to see what he would be like under Mourinho. I actually think the fast goal scoring right winger is more important. If you have Martial and the RW scoring 15+ each in the league, your life becomes much easier up front.

I wouldn't mind Zlatan if Rooney is gone but I don't think Rooney will ever go not on his terms, shame really, just hope Jose if he is the next manager has the balls to make big decisions.

 

[steveorobbo]

Like I say, PL will be a whole new challenge for Zlatan, physically nothing else compares and if things don't go well he will start moaning. His ego in that dressing room scares me, when you have such composed and level headed young players it could have a detrimental effect.

Having players with an edge to them and that fight to win is one thing, but Zlatan is another.

Do you think the class of 92 would have had the same drive and determination without the likes of Cantona and Keane kicking them up the **** all day in training and demanding they play to their level on a match day? Yes it could backfire because of his attitude and ego, but there is also a very good chance those youngsters will look and learn from somebody who's been there and done it.

 

[sunilvk7]

People still havent considered the alternative, that United might finish 4th and still bin LVG, since he only has a year left.

I'm 100% sure Van Gaal will leave even if we finish 3rd, nevermind 4th. This season is a failure even if we finish 3rd or 4th. We will part ways with Van Gaal in a respectable fashion saying Van Gaal wants early retirement and Jose is his successor.

Only reason I think Van Gaal won't be humiliated is Woodward likes him a lot and works well with him. So they will try their best to make his departure as nothing but sack.

 

[sunilvk7]

Its almost like football only started in 1990....

It's almost like when someone posts stats about PL, you will always copy past the same post.

When someone is talking about PL and stats about PL, why will the consider stats about older format?

 

[sunilvk7]

But anyway, everything about this signing I just don't like, stats may be great in a team which is far superior to anything else in a mediocre French league but for me I just don't understand this signing.

Like I say, PL will be a whole new challenge for Zlatan, physically nothing else compares and if things don't go well he will start moaning. His ego in that dressing room scares me, when you have such composed and level headed young players it could have a detrimental effect.

Having players with an edge to them and that fight to win is one thing, but Zlatan is another.

Did you see how Ibra played against Chelsea? Forget his league stats, just check his CL stats.

Physical challenge is nothing to him, have to even seen him? French league is very strong physically and he handles them without any issue. Pace was never issue with him, he always played at his own pace and always played like a playmaker.

Also regarding dressing room, PSG locker room is full of egos, did anyone complain about Ibra?

Young strikers dream about playing with Ibra and training with him. He would be excellent addition to whoever signs him. If young striker can pick a thing or 2 about his winning mentality and how to train yourself to perfection then it would be worth the wages considering his quality on the field.

 

[wkdsoul]

It's almost like when someone posts stats about PL, you will always copy past the same post.

When someone is talking about PL and stats about PL, why will the consider stats about older format?

Hey I threw that up just for scouse to knock out the park, you sshh.

 

[sunilvk7]

And now you see why Zlatan appeals. I'm loathe to keep Rooney, but also interested to see what he would be like under Mourinho. I actually think the fast goal scoring right winger is more important. If you have Martial and the RW scoring 15+ each in the league, your life becomes much easier up front.

Out top scorer in the league is Martial with 7 league goals. IIRC 14 teams have a player who scored more.

We need players who are goal hungry, like Hernandez. Not similar quality but someone like him who loves scoring goals.

 

[Legend Incredible]

I said not sold on him for the price we would pay, which would be £50m... give or take, maybe even more in this market. You can't tell me that you think he's the real deal after two seasons for that price either.

When you say 'he is free' there is a reason for this, he is past it, he is in a French league which can be deceiving as to whether they actually are good or the opponent is utter *****. (Obviously we got Martial from the French league so you know, but we also got Falcao).

Also I'm sorry but a striker like him coming in with have a definite mental effect on everyone in that squad, he has the ego size of an ocean and he will have wages which will be absurd. Him and Rooney's wages in the same squad together would be sickening alone.

I just don't get this signing and wonder why we would ever consider bringing him in at this age unless we are abandoning any of the things we have seen this season to go back in the hunt for instant success.

Reus, Aubemayang, Griezzmann, list goes on and on. These are signings that would not only come in and make an instant impact, but would also have longevity in them as well. Also they offer something totally different to the likes of Rooney for example.

If you think we'll get back to anywhere of old with players like Zlatan and Jose working together you're wrong, it will only work when things are going well, hit a patch like we have had this season and watch things implode. Zlatan won't give a **** if things don't go well, huge money and knows people don't expect him to be at his best at that age.

I hope you're not judging falcao based on his stint with us...they called him el tigre for a reason