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Casillas has over 100 caps as a team captain. Never easy to compete with a guy like that.
 
Spain always have this unwavering loyalty to their first choice. Even in meaningless friendlies the one player that plays more or less overtime is the 'keeper. Zubizarretta for years and years. Then Casillas. Reina hardly got a look in. It's bizarre but it is what it is and Del Bosque continues that same loyalty.

To think De Gea could very well be sat the bench the summer just blows your mind.

Part of Spain's downfall I think, when I seen them in the last world cup I thought they stuck with a few players when they shouldn't of and blooded in more upcoming players like Koke into starting 11 etc.

Having said that, when you think about it England aren't much different, I mean Rooney will be our indisputed starter yet again despite doing very little this season compared to other players. We hold on to relying on these kinds of players too long as well is what I'm getting at, even when they are not the same player they once was and there are players who are outshining them.
 
Spain always have this unwavering loyalty to their first choice. Even in meaningless friendlies the one player that plays more or less every time is the 'keeper. Zubizarretta for years and years. Then Casillas. Reina hardly got a look in. It's bizarre but it is what it is and Del Bosque continues that same loyalty.

To think De Gea could very well be sat the bench the summer just blows your mind.

There were at time at least 3 GK better than Reina in Spanish national team.
 
People are really underrating Valdez this much to think Reina was better? Ok. I'm done with football for today.
 
People are really underrating Valdez this much to think Reina was better? Ok. I'm done with football for today.
If you truly think Valdez is/was better than Reina then perhaps its good that you're done with football for today. Valdez was an awful keeper who was lucky to be in goal for one of the best sides in football history.
 
If you truly think Valdez is/was better than Reina then perhaps its good that you're done with football for today. Valdez was an awful keeper who was lucky to be in goal for one of the best sides in football history.

The irony of this. Calling Valdes, (not Valdez) an awful keeper is actual nonsense, even from Liverpool fans who might have worshipped Reina

They were both excellent keepers at their peak, Valdes was just the more consistent of the two, but neither were as good or consistent as Casillias at the time
 
Valdes was ok, but playing for a side that constantly maintained 70% possession certainly made his job easier.

Reina winning three Golden Gloves in a row for Liverpool is another story.
 
Valdes was ok, but playing for a side that constantly maintained 70% possession certainly made his job easier.

Reina winning three Golden Gloves in a row for Liverpool is another story.

Not his fault that. Iker played for Real.
 
The irony of this. Calling Valdes, (not Valdez) an awful keeper is actual nonsense, even from Liverpool fans who might have worshipped Reina

They were both excellent keepers at their peak, Valdes was just the more consistent of the two, but neither were as good or consistent as Casillias at the time

Disagree, Reina was better then him in every department. Although Reina did lost the plot towards the end though. However how much of that was due to losing his gk coach Xavi Valero who was an excellent coach.
 
Valdes an awful keeper.....seriously? Yes he may have struggled against crosses but awful?

That's enough internet for me for today
 
Disagree, Reina was better then him in every department. Although Reina did lost the plot towards the end though. However how much of that was due to losing his gk coach Xavi Valero who was an excellent coach.

Rafa leaving more than anything. His heart just completely went out out of the club when that happened. That last season he was just going through the motions from being the best 'keeper the league for 3 or 4 of the previous 5. Took him some time to settle here, mainly in the air surprisingly for such a big fella', but when he sorted that out he was immense. If he'd stayed long enough, he'd be the clear second best 'keeper we've ever had after Clem for me. But I'd have to give that honour to Brucie purely on duration.

Just a smidgen behind Casillas on the World stage for a time the late double 0's.

Valdes was/ is a good, competent 'keeper. (If dodgy as all heck in the air. Not good for a 'keeper in England.). Rather silly to say he was 'awful' man. But he certainly wasn't on the standard Reina was for a good few years period.
 
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They were both excellent keepers at their peak, Valdes was just the more consistent of the two, but neither were as good or consistent as Casillias at the time

This is the point. Casillas was easily better than 2 at that time and his decline started after Reina's started. So at that time it was no brainer to play Casillas as #1.

Playing him a #1 this season is strange and nothing but stupidity.
 
On a side note, it's really sad how Januzaj's development has been completely abandoned. On his debut season with moyes, i don't think i've ever seen such a young players as cool on the ball as him.

He's like martial but without the explosiveness plus he was silky. He made everything look so easy. I don't know what happened to that januzaj.
 
On a side note, it's really sad how Januzaj's development has been completely abandoned. On his debut season with moyes, i don't think i've ever seen such a young players as cool on the ball as him.

He's like martial but without the explosiveness plus he was silky. He made everything look so easy. I don't know what happened to that januzaj.

attitude, something that needs to change quickly, hopefully it will under a new manager.
 
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