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He isn't pacy but he's got quick feet. I understand what you're saying. If he beats his man, he does it with skill or technique, not by outpacing someone.
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He isn't pacy but he's got quick feet. I understand what you're saying. If he beats his man, he does it with skill or technique, not by outpacing someone.
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Simon Stone @sistoney67
Match against @celticfc for Man Utd u23s in Premier League International Cup. Swansea and Athletic Bilbao also in group. Dates tbc.
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Match against @celticfc for Man Utd u23s in Premier League International Cup. Swansea and Athletic Bilbao also in group. Dates tbc.
Sorry, but is Premier League International Cup something new? Sounds like a Champions League thingie, but there is already a CL for youth?
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It's a PL thing they brought in 2 or 3 years ago when they reformed the youth structure. To give more competitive games and against a different style of footie from the Continent. It's split half PL U-23's, half European U-21/U-23's with all the English clubs playing in England.
*Edit* I actually quite like it FWIW. The standards not that great a rise in level with some of the European sides they invite but it's always competitive and adds a bit of excitement to have 'European' youth games. Can't harm players development to come up against foreign ideas early. I know L'pool coaches always relish it and speak highly of it so it's working for those involved.
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On Andreas Pereira's future at Manchester United. #MUFC#BRAhttp://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/manchester-united-prospect-andreas-pereira-10917262 …
Castles reporting Mourinho has to him he will be in his match day squads this season. Great news!
Castles reporting Mourinho has to him he will be in his match day squads this season. Great news!
Originally posted in the transfer thread, but will be of interest here too:
Manchester United want three more but done deals have Jose Mourinho sure Paul Pogba's talent will finally be unleashed
Tensions have eased with the signing of Nemanja Matic but in an ideal world Mourinho would like two full backs and another midfielder with a deal for Ivan Perisic not yet dead
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Jose Mourinho is confident Manchester United's transfer business will finally allow Paul Pogba to show his quality Manchester UnitedA few weeks ago, in one of the quieter moments on Manchester United’s preseason tour, Jose Mourinho asked Paul Pogba a question he didn’t want to ask and that he knew would create a lot of noise. He wondered whether the French star would consider occasionally playing as a defensive midfielder this season.
It was all the more galling for Mourinho because club sources say he has a lot of faith that Pogba will make a big leap this season, and even believes he can hit up to 15 goals.
The very question however reflected how difficult United were finding it to sign a defensive midfielder, represented a big reason why Mourinho was last week so publicly disgruntled with their transfer business, and is now why he is much happier.
By getting his former Chelsea lieutenant Nemanja Matic, the United boss also got his top priority for the summer beyond signing a primary centre-forward. That is how crucial a defensive midfielder was to his plans. The Portuguese now has his framework, but he still doesn’t have complete satisfaction.
The tension that arose over transfers in the past month has been eased, but hasn’t completely gone away. United sources say Mourinho still believes they should have done the vast majority - if not all business - before the US tour to give him more time to work with players and also feels that delays have also made the actual deals more difficult too, especially in the case of Ivan Perisic.
The Croatian - or someone a lot like him - represents the main piece missing from Mourinho’s ideal structure, if not quite ideal XI. As it stands, his likely starting line-up would be: David De Gea; Antonio Valencia, Eric Bailly, Victor Lindelof, Luke Shaw; Nemanja Matic, Ander Herrera; Marcus Rashford, Pogba, Jesse Lingard or Henrikh Mkhitaryan; Romelu Lukaku.
Mourinho is happy with United's transfer business but wants more (Getty)
The Portuguese does really like Lingard as a useful player - and big-game scorer - but he also represents the obvious area where that side could be upgraded, where Mourinho could still do with the type of classically Mourinho wideman that Perisic represents. United are wary of doing business with Internazionale again after the frustration of negotiating for the £48m-priced winger over the last two months, but those close to the clubs still think it will eventually happen.
Those close to Old Trafford, however, do not think Anthony Martial will be going the other way. Ed Woodward and many others in the hierarchy believe he is a precocious talent to be invested in for the future, but there is also an argument that he is badly needed right now, even if not always a starter.
Martial is one of the few players among their attacking options who offers that something different, that bit of unpredictable - if often erratic - magic. It leads to another lingering question about United’s transfer business this summer, especially in attack.
They have already again been put forward as likely favourites for the title along with neighbours Manchester City, but there does appear to be something of a discrepancy in terms of attacking quality. Whereas United have Lukaku, Martial, Rashford, Mkhitaryan and Mata as primary options, with Lingard, Ashley Young and Marouane Fellaini as back-ups - although Mourinho is known to be a fan of Scott McTominay - in what are fairly fixed positions, City have many different fluid attacking possibilities that can consist of: Kevin De Bruyne, David Silva, Bernardo Silva, Raheem Sterling, Leroy Sane, Sergio Aguero, Gabriel Jesus and potentially Alexis Sanchez. All are capable of that Martial magic, some very consistently, and all would be primary options anywhere else.
Matic's arrival is particularly pleasing for Mourinho (Manchester United)
That is why there is still a feeling that United need that true elevation in attacking quality this season, and why it would make more than commercial sense to still buy a “star”.
It probably doesn’t help that that Mourinho bases many attacking signings on their defensive qualities, but then he did want another striker this summer, but effectively had to pick between that and other priorities. That has pointed to another source of tension in that there is a feeling that the Glazers have slightly tightened spending this summer. If Mourinho had his way, he would still bring that extra attacker and two full-backs. Serge Aurier has been offered to United as well as a few clubs, and a deal could be done for the right price for the side of the pitch. For the left side, though, the Portuguese is said to have been impressed with Shaw’s response to last season’s rigours and now has much more faith in him. The feeling, according to one source, is that “the penny has dropped”.
It also greatly eases all of this that Mourinho can now instantly drop in to defensive midfield a player he completely trusts and who completely understands what he wants in Matic.
It should ensure that the base of the team functions exactly as the Portuguese wants, too, allowing them all to play much higher up the pitch and completely freeing Pogba. Mourinho also greatly believes that will ensure the French star can really express himself this season, can really double down on the obvious talent that he only dabbed at the league with last season; that he can then get those 15 goals.
A Pogba playing like that will make a huge difference to United’s attack even if they don’t get that star. That should not be overlooked in all of this, even if it also shouldn't overlooked that Mourinho isn't completely happy just yet.
Manchester United want three more but done deals have Jose Mourinho sure Paul Pogba's talent will finally be unleashed
Tensions have eased with the signing of Nemanja Matic but in an ideal world Mourinho would like two full backs and another midfielder with a deal for Ivan Perisic not yet dead
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It was all the more galling for Mourinho because club sources say he has a lot of faith that Pogba will make a big leap this season, and even believes he can hit up to 15 goals.
The very question however reflected how difficult United were finding it to sign a defensive midfielder, represented a big reason why Mourinho was last week so publicly disgruntled with their transfer business, and is now why he is much happier.
By getting his former Chelsea lieutenant Nemanja Matic, the United boss also got his top priority for the summer beyond signing a primary centre-forward. That is how crucial a defensive midfielder was to his plans. The Portuguese now has his framework, but he still doesn’t have complete satisfaction.
The tension that arose over transfers in the past month has been eased, but hasn’t completely gone away. United sources say Mourinho still believes they should have done the vast majority - if not all business - before the US tour to give him more time to work with players and also feels that delays have also made the actual deals more difficult too, especially in the case of Ivan Perisic.
The Croatian - or someone a lot like him - represents the main piece missing from Mourinho’s ideal structure, if not quite ideal XI. As it stands, his likely starting line-up would be: David De Gea; Antonio Valencia, Eric Bailly, Victor Lindelof, Luke Shaw; Nemanja Matic, Ander Herrera; Marcus Rashford, Pogba, Jesse Lingard or Henrikh Mkhitaryan; Romelu Lukaku.
Mourinho is happy with United's transfer business but wants more (Getty)
The Portuguese does really like Lingard as a useful player - and big-game scorer - but he also represents the obvious area where that side could be upgraded, where Mourinho could still do with the type of classically Mourinho wideman that Perisic represents. United are wary of doing business with Internazionale again after the frustration of negotiating for the £48m-priced winger over the last two months, but those close to the clubs still think it will eventually happen.
Those close to Old Trafford, however, do not think Anthony Martial will be going the other way. Ed Woodward and many others in the hierarchy believe he is a precocious talent to be invested in for the future, but there is also an argument that he is badly needed right now, even if not always a starter.
Martial is one of the few players among their attacking options who offers that something different, that bit of unpredictable - if often erratic - magic. It leads to another lingering question about United’s transfer business this summer, especially in attack.
They have already again been put forward as likely favourites for the title along with neighbours Manchester City, but there does appear to be something of a discrepancy in terms of attacking quality. Whereas United have Lukaku, Martial, Rashford, Mkhitaryan and Mata as primary options, with Lingard, Ashley Young and Marouane Fellaini as back-ups - although Mourinho is known to be a fan of Scott McTominay - in what are fairly fixed positions, City have many different fluid attacking possibilities that can consist of: Kevin De Bruyne, David Silva, Bernardo Silva, Raheem Sterling, Leroy Sane, Sergio Aguero, Gabriel Jesus and potentially Alexis Sanchez. All are capable of that Martial magic, some very consistently, and all would be primary options anywhere else.
Matic's arrival is particularly pleasing for Mourinho (Manchester United)
That is why there is still a feeling that United need that true elevation in attacking quality this season, and why it would make more than commercial sense to still buy a “star”.
It probably doesn’t help that that Mourinho bases many attacking signings on their defensive qualities, but then he did want another striker this summer, but effectively had to pick between that and other priorities. That has pointed to another source of tension in that there is a feeling that the Glazers have slightly tightened spending this summer. If Mourinho had his way, he would still bring that extra attacker and two full-backs. Serge Aurier has been offered to United as well as a few clubs, and a deal could be done for the right price for the side of the pitch. For the left side, though, the Portuguese is said to have been impressed with Shaw’s response to last season’s rigours and now has much more faith in him. The feeling, according to one source, is that “the penny has dropped”.
It also greatly eases all of this that Mourinho can now instantly drop in to defensive midfield a player he completely trusts and who completely understands what he wants in Matic.
It should ensure that the base of the team functions exactly as the Portuguese wants, too, allowing them all to play much higher up the pitch and completely freeing Pogba. Mourinho also greatly believes that will ensure the French star can really express himself this season, can really double down on the obvious talent that he only dabbed at the league with last season; that he can then get those 15 goals.
A Pogba playing like that will make a huge difference to United’s attack even if they don’t get that star. That should not be overlooked in all of this, even if it also shouldn't overlooked that Mourinho isn't completely happy just yet.
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I don't know why journalists (presume there's nottin' out of Utd officially on this?) are pushing this Aurier thing or why any Utd fan would be happy over the 'links?'
The fella's a complete, classless head case. If he's not assaulting bizzies or racially abusing folk, he's slandering teammates and coaches. How would you feel if he turned on Mourinho the way he turned on Blanc calling him a '***?'
Don't get why anyone would want to bring that type of character into the club.
The fella's a complete, classless head case. If he's not assaulting bizzies or racially abusing folk, he's slandering teammates and coaches. How would you feel if he turned on Mourinho the way he turned on Blanc calling him a '***?'
Don't get why anyone would want to bring that type of character into the club.
Pushing it because there is something concrete behind it.
I like him as a player, I'm wary as a person. I hope the change in scenery helps change him as a person
Mourinho is good at working with the 'hothead' type temperamental players such as Aurier.
Plus many of them over the years who fit into that mould have been some of our greatest ever players. Roy Keane, Cantona, Best, Vidic, the list is endless.
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Ta for the different POV's.
Outside of him not being allowed into the Country and that public mess the CL, I didn't know too much about his character. But after speaking to a French friend last week and discovering just how generally disliked he is out there down to being an absolute classless _____ I personally wouldn't touch him with a barge pole regardless of how talented he may be.
Appreciated.
Outside of him not being allowed into the Country and that public mess the CL, I didn't know too much about his character. But after speaking to a French friend last week and discovering just how generally disliked he is out there down to being an absolute classless _____ I personally wouldn't touch him with a barge pole regardless of how talented he may be.
Appreciated.
Yeh Vidic wasn't the best example. Maybe moreso Staam. Tbh I'm not really talking about off the pitch as opposed to on it.
When you think of those personalities who are like that they tend to give much more on the pitch. More passionate and in the moment with their approach. Hard to explain.
I really would take the gamble with Aurier personally.
It's almost like Suarez, the guy is one of the best players to ever grace the Premier League, but he's an utter lunatic and you can never tell what his next move is going to be.
True, although like with everything, there is always two side to the story.
Not saying Aurier is innocent by any means, but I'd be surprised if he done all that **** for no reason whatsoever. Especially the falling out with Blanc.
A fresh start would do him good, that's for sure.
It could backfire like Balotelli or be a masterstroke. A gamble worth taking, for the price in this market anyway.
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Perisic and Aurier would be a great end to our window if Delaney is right! Also good to hear about the penny finally dropping with Shaw and Mou being impressed with him.
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I don't think we should buy Perisic and am on the fence about buying Aurier.
Perisic would clutter the squad too much next year when Griezmann comes, which might lead to someone like Rashford or Martial leaving.As far as Aurier is concerned, I just don't think he is worth the fuss he could make
Perisic would clutter the squad too much next year when Griezmann comes, which might lead to someone like Rashford or Martial leaving.As far as Aurier is concerned, I just don't think he is worth the fuss he could make
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Dont think Perisic would clutter the squad at all. We lack quality depth in the wide areas and would offer a lot to our squad. A lot can happen in a year. No guarentee Griezmann will come and they don't play anything alike.