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Absolute rubbish, tactically outdone for the 3rd game in a row. Yeah I'm kinda counting PSG despite the win because we got it wrong with Bailly at the start.

The Solskjaer novelty is off, he can't have this job long-term, I've been thinking it but we were so disjointed last few games.

Solskjaer weathered the storm, we need a bigger name to this job, it's an enormous one in the summer. No disrespect to him, but this job is too big to get wrong again.
 
wow glad i dont lvie with zz guys a head case good to see we have to old zz back **** me get a grip
 
The only thing that baffles me tonight is why throw all the returning players back from injury into the same team. You could tell they have only trained a couple of days.

Another annoying thing is when ever we concede under Ole it’s not from being outplayed or carved open. It’s from stupid mistakes and lapses of concentration. Frustrating.
 
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Theatre of Dreams83 said:
The only thing that baffles me tonight is why throw all the returning players back from injury into the same team. You could tell they have only trained a couple of days.

Another annoying thing is when ever we concede under Ole it’s not from being outplayed or carved open. It’s from stupid mistakes and lapses of concentration. Frustrating.
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The warning sign was there all along though TOD and we didn't tactically adjust to it. How many times were they pinging balls from one side to the pitch to the other stretching us with their wing-back in miles of space?

To be honest there was nothing about the performance tonight I could take as a positive. Pogba as captain and was absolutely terrible. Can't remember when he has been captain and had a good game. I don't even know why we give it him, he has enough pressure without the armband let alone with it.
 
zzeezzy said:
The warning sign was there all along though TOD and we didn't tactically adjust to it. How many times were they pinging balls from one side to the pitch to the other stretching us with their wing-back in miles of space?

To be honest there was nothing about the performance tonight I could take as a positive. Pogba as captain and was absolutely terrible. Can't remember when he has been captain and had a good game. I don't even know why we give it him, he has enough pressure without the armband let alone with it.
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I understand that but that’s not how they scored. They scored from Luke Shaw falling over and a ridiculously lucky ping pong ball in the box landing in the box to Jimenez. They didn’t cut us open to create a good chance once.

All the other efforts where from Neves 30 yarders. And one unmarked header from a corner. Frustrating result to say the least but I’m not gonna go off the deep end. We had 4 players who had only a few days training in the starting 11 and 1 on the bench. No STR or attacking options to change the game.

One thing that will play a big a factor is fitness at the back end of the season. We’ve gone since the start of LVG era till only a few months ago being a lazy sideways and backwards passing defensive team, with the least sprints/distance covered per match to the complete opposite and it’s clearly telling.

No need to be overreactionary and start the doom mongering. Ole is doing a great job atm from where we were. He needs time as do the team to fully adapt.
 
I agree with you TOD but we caused our own problems today, like you say bringing back all them midfielders who had no match sharpness. Just as Fred was hitting his stride and we didn't see him at all, I don't get it.

A massive April coming up that's for sure, we can't afford to drop anymore points in the league at the moment and then Barca in CL. Considering the great form we're still in 5th which means Emmerdale cup for next season.
 
zzeezzy said:
I agree with you TOD but we caused our own problems today, like you say bringing back all them midfielders who had no match sharpness. Just as Fred was hitting his stride and we didn't see him at all, I don't get it.

A massive April coming up that's for sure, we can't afford to drop anymore points in the league at the moment and then Barca in CL. Considering the great form we're still in 5th which means Emmerdale cup for next season.
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Ole got that wrong imo the team selection but he obviously wanted to go through and picked his strongest team. Just happened to backfire tonight unfortunately. Still confident of getting a result despite being massively difficult but over 2 legs can be done. Also still confident on top 4. Even if we narrowly miss out we can’t really blame Ole to much look at the mountain he had to climb to get us to even have a sniff. lnternational break has come at a great time for us for once. Get players rested and get the players who have returned some much needed match sharpness. Then we go again!

Stick with Ole and the players. Let him put in the work in pre season and by the start of next season there will be no excuses to not being use to our new style of play. Also back the man to the hill in the Summer. I can confidently say if we had Ole from the start of this season we would be sitting pretty in 3rd now and that’s with the squad he already has. Gets the right signings this Summer we will be there or there about next season.
 
Theatre of Dreams83 said:
Ole got that wrong imo the team selection but he obviously wanted to go through and picked his strongest team. Just happened to backfire tonight unfortunately. Still confident of getting a result despite being massively difficult but over 2 legs can be done. Also still confident on top 4. Even if we narrowly miss out we can’t really blame Ole to much look at the mountain he had to climb to get us to even have a sniff. lnternational break has come at a great time for us for once. Get players rested and get the players who have returned some much needed match sharpness. Then we go again!

Stick with Ole and the players. Let him put in the work in pre season and by the start of next season there will be no excuses to not being use to our new style of play. Also back the man to the hill in the Summer. I can confidently say if we had Ole from the start of this season we would be sitting pretty in 3rd now and that’s with the squad he already has. Gets the right signings this Summer we will be there or there about next season.
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You know I'd agree with you majority of this but for me we have to think very carefully about how Ole handles this next part of season before appointing him. Because so far we've only seen him when things are going well, at the moment we've lost 2 matches in a row. I want to see if he turns this around and most importantly if we learn from mistakes against Wolves in the league after Watford at home.

I really want Solskjaer to work out but it seems too much of a fantasy, I'm not saying it definitely can't. But right now I don't like what I'm seeing and we need a **** of a lot better than what we saw tonight. I don't even know if we even created a good chance apart from the goal.
 
zzeezzy said:
You know I'd agree with you majority of this but for me we have to think very carefully about how Ole handles this next part of season before appointing him. Because so far we've only seen him when things are going well, at the moment we've lost 2 matches in a row. I want to see if he turns this around and most importantly if we learn from mistakes against Wolves in the league after Watford at home.

I really want Solskjaer to work out but it seems too much of a fantasy, I'm not saying it definitely can't. But right now I don't like what I'm seeing and we need a **** of a lot better than what we saw tonight. I don't even know if we even created a good chance apart from the goal.
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What more can he do tbh with what he’s got and from where he started literally nothing! Everyone was saying what you said after the PSG loss. What happened we went to Chelsea in the cup at our biggest bogey ground and comfortably outplayed them, then put on that performance against PSG with that team. Like I said I don’t know what else he can do.
 
Theatre of Dreams83 said:
What more can he do tbh with what he’s got and from where he started literally nothing! Everyone was saying what you said after the PSG loss. What happened we went to Chelsea in the cup at our biggest bogey ground and comfortably outplayed them, then put on that performance against PSG with that team. Like I said I don’t know what else he can do.
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Yeah I think we just got to ride this season out though buddy before making a decision either way. Like mike said it should answer itself either way in the end.

I did overreact tbf but I am a bit worried after seeing a performance like that.
 
Zzeezzy in all over the place shocker

Big name? We had one of the biggest in Jose, pray tell how that went?
 
Mike. said:
Zzeezzy in all over the place shocker

Big name? We had one of the biggest in Jose, pray tell how that went?
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My main worry with Solskjaer is that when the going gets tough will the sharks gobble him up like they did with Jose? I know Tyton made this point a few weeks ago and he may be right, I guess we'll see how the season rides itself out.
 
zzeezzy said:
My main worry with Solskjaer is that when the going gets tough will the sharks gobble him up like they did with Jose? I know Tyton made this point a few weeks ago and he may be right, I guess we'll see how the season rides itself out.
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Jose made his own life ****. When times get tough, don't throw players under the bus. He's made no bones about the fact we've got plenty of work to be done.

The season will be a strong judgement of him, good or bad. If anything, this blip will tell us what he's got in adversity over the next few weeks.
 
When Mou was kicked and Solskjaer took over, most of us hoped for him to calm the waters till United get someone else in the Summer. Three or four months later, United have gotten into the top 4, beat the PSG and went into FA Cup 1/4 final the hard way. And with half the squad injured in last month. Only last 2 games changed that.
Of someone offered me that in January, I would ******* bite their hands off, because United were in a big, ugly mess left by Mourinho and Woodward.
Ole took his 'not good enough squad' and made it really good enough to go toe to toe with almost everyone in the league. Sorry if Im not going to critisize Solskjaer over some losses because he's done 10 times more than I ever expected. He's free of that for the rest of the season. If he gets the job and gets his players, then he should be judged by these kind of losses. No one expected United could even be in this position, to moan about not winning the throphy in Jan.
 
I admire his no excuse approach after the game and saying it how it is. I just wonder if he is more of an impact manager rather than a good long-term candidate. Maybe I'm over analysing last few games but it was really poor yesterday. We were getting Ole'd whilst they passed the ball around us ffs lol.
 
Solskjaer's tactic yesterday got exposed as well, this whole building through Pogba and going down the left was so predictable now. Teams have worked it out, didn't see any adjustment yesterday either despite seeing warning signs throughout the game from Wolves.

Be interesting to see how we get on in next few games because they are pivotal to any top 4 hope. Have to be beating both Watford and Wolves which will be key to seeing if he learns from a game.
 
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