The Manchester United Thread

Theatre of Dreams83 said:
Here is the link :


Marcus Rashford is ready to give Manchester United a huge boost by signing a long-term contract at his boyhood club. By @_pauljoyce and @garyjacob #MUFC https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/marcus-rashford-to-sign-new-deal-with-manchester-united-z3mk8bmdc?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1560804556 …

6:00 AM - Jun 18, 201
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Let's see if it's anywhere near the 300k mark ;)

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My call would be around 200K, with performance bonuses and rights leading to ~250k.
 
Theatre of Dreams83 said:
Apparently WH wanted 40m and Martial for Issa Diop :O
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Long story short, they do not want to sell. Which is fine. They don't want too much upheaval, with all the talk around Rice present, too.

But we really need to get a good CB in, it's vital. Since de Ligt won't happen, we really need to test Napoli with a bigger bid, see if they fold. The other option apparently is Maguire, but definitely not at the prices quoted. If nothing else, try Alderweireld short term, it's fine on a shorter contract and (relatively) lesser wages.
 
Sherkey said:
Long story short, they do not want to sell. Which is fine. They don't want too much upheaval, with all the talk around Rice present, too.

But we really need to get a good CB in, it's vital. Since de Ligt won't happen, we really need to test Napoli with a bigger bid, see if they fold. The other option apparently is Maguire, but definitely not at the prices quoted. If nothing else, try Alderweireld short term, it's fine on a shorter contract and (relatively) lesser wages.
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Cut feeling is that Toby stays, but if he moves low wage wont bring him on, his last paycheck without CL. Toby has several years in him and might want to join Ajax at some point
 
Sherkey said:
Long story short, they do not want to sell. Which is fine. They don't want too much upheaval, with all the talk around Rice present, too.

But we really need to get a good CB in, it's vital. Since de Ligt won't happen, we really need to test Napoli with a bigger bid, see if they fold. .....
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Selling Napoli on the price would be far easier than selling Koulibaly on no CL football and a club in disarray as Utd currently are mate. Neither of those were ever realistic. The club can afford both but the project just isn't there when those two have their pick of most anyone in far better situations. Aside from the fact he extended and is real happy with his life in Naples by all accounts. Just he's one of the top CH's out there so he's an easy link every window to move for the rumour brigade.

West Ham looking to flip Diop for three times what they paid for him, 1 season in, is in the realms of AWB madness. (Palace wanting £45 million in cash and another10/15 to push in incentives to push it up toward £60 million.). Two real raw, nowhere near complete players going for the sort of fees you expect readymade, established players to move for will do well to happen.

The market needs to start moving and set itself so certain clubs can come back to realism with asking prices. Even at a starting price to bargain down from.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Selling Napoli on the price would be far easier than selling Koulibaly on no CL football and a club in disarray as Utd currently are mate. Neither of those were ever realistic. The club can afford both but the project just isn't there when those two have their pick of most anyone in far better situations. Aside from the fact he extended and is real happy with his life in Naples by all accounts. Just he's one of the top CH's out there so he's an easy link every window to move for the rumour brigade.

West Ham looking to flip Diop for three times what they paid for him, 1 season in, is in the realms of AWB madness. (Palace wanting £45 million in cash and another10/15 to push in incentives to push it up toward £60 million.). Two real raw, nowhere near complete players going for the sort of fees you expect readymade, established players to move for will do well to happen.

The market needs to start moving and set itself so certain clubs can come back to realism with asking prices. Even at a starting price to bargain down from.
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That is the market though: Rodri at 70m, Joao Felix is going at 102m(!)
 
Disagree on AWB scouse. Don't think I've ever seen a young FB be that good defensively. 21, British, good personality/mentality, already the best defensive RB in the league (he literally pockets every ******* winger, for me, he's already hit the levels of peak Azpi in a defensive sense the season gone by/closing parts of 17/18), and whilst there's definite room for improvement offensively, he still completed the most take on's/best dribble success rate from RB's in the league & averaged pretty good in other areas too. Was also an attacker through youth so you know it'll elevate with better players.

Personally think 50M is an absolute no brainer in today's market. Can throw the "raw" word about, but he's a special young talent in his respective field and looks nailed on to reach the top. SIGN SIGN SIGN.
 
RhQQ said:
Disagree on AWB scouse. Don't think I've ever seen a young FB be that good defensively. 21, British, good personality/mentality, already the best defensive RB in the league (he literally pockets every ******* winger, for me, he's already hit the levels of peak Azpi in a defensive sense the season gone by/closing parts of 17/18), and whilst there's definite room for improvement offensively, he still completed the most take on's/best dribble success rate from RB's in the league & averaged pretty good in other areas too. Was also an attacker through youth so you know it'll elevate with better players.

Personally think 50M is an absolute no brainer in today's market. Can throw the "raw" word about, but he's a special young talent in his respective field and looks nailed on to reach the top. SIGN SIGN SIGN.
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You'll both want to read this then

https://twitter.com/statsbomb/status/1052160955654787072?lang=en

https://twitter.com/statsbomb/status/1120622058474545152?lang=en

https://statsbomb.com/2019/04/what-does-a-fullback-do-in-2019/ (really nice comparison of Roberston and AWB, high praise for both)
 
Mate, I'm not even exaggerating when I say I can see him retiring as the league's best RB, certainly in the mix. I think he can mirror Ashley Cole's impact on the right. That's how much I rate him. Boggled me how people were reserved on him or thought 50-60M was too much, also cringes me when people say "what about Dalot?" as if we owe Dalot our life or something. I like Dalot as much as the next guy, but if we can upgrade on Dalot for 50M and lock the position down for a decade, then we ******* do it. None of this sentimental bullshit. Need to be ruthless.
 
Mike. said:
That is the market though: Rodri at 70m, Joao Felix is going at 102m(!)
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On Joao Felix, I hadn't seen that yesterday about Atletico. WOW! Benfica have subsequently quashed it but that would be nuts for anyone to flat out pay the release clause. That should be just a starting point to bargain down from as you know it's not going above that. Although that said, the buzz around him Europe wide is Mbappe-esq so if he fulfils it you're increasing on the investment.
 
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If Mata did leave, thoughts on taking the free-to-leave Lanzini off WHU's hands on the cheap for a creative squad role? Saw someone suggest it on Twitter.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
On Joao Felix, I hadn't seen that yesterday about Atletico. WOW! Benfica have subsequently quashed it but that would be nuts for anyone to flat out pay the release clause. That should be just a starting point to bargain down from as you know it's not going above that. Although the said, the buzz around him Europe wide is Mbappe-esq so if he fulfils it you're increasing on the investment.
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It looks like that is exactly what happened, they're going straight for the release. You're partly right in that the market has inflated, but it's not going to settle down. This IS is the new stable, mad as it sounds
 
RhQQ said:
If Mata did leave, thoughts on taking the free-to-leave Lanzini off WHU's hands on the cheap for a creative squad role? Saw someone suggest it on Twitter.
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Seing more and more reports he’s signing. The only thing that people differ on is the length of his new contract.
 
Ruben Dias £60m? Or Jonathan Tah at Leverkusen or their other CB pretty good too.
 
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