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Not that it means anything but just been listening to Fabs latest transfer news bid.

If he’s right (most likely not lol)

We should be lining up something like this next season.

Onana
Dalot, Todibo, Martinez, New LB (no name mentioned)

Mainoo, Neves

Olise, Bruno, Garnacho

Højlund

Also said talks with Frimpong have been ongoing since last summer. And the current STR option to bring in is Sesko.
 
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Legend Incredible said:
You can’t know for sure now can you? It’s not like it’s the first trophy he’s won (probably won’t be the last). If you look at the situation from an owner’s perspective, it’s better an employee operate under the assumption of keeping his job vs losing it.

But I’ll give him this, he’s handled this (the press) as graciously as anyone could. I would’ve gone the Nigel Pearson route.
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Of course it is, but you're acting like ten Hag has nothing to lose if he just forfeits the match.
 
Theatre of Dreams83 said:
Not that it means anything but just been listening to Fabs latest transfer news bid.

If he’s right (most likely not lol)

We should be lining up something like this next season.

Onana
Dalot, Todibo, Martinez, New LB (no name mentioned)

Mainoo, Neves

Olise, Bruno, Garnacho

Højlund

Also said talks with Frimpong have been ongoing since last summer. And the current STR option to bring in is Sesko.
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So that's 50m for Todibo, 100m for Neves, probably 60-70 for Olise. Over 200m without Frimpong ( who's going to be 50m+) and Sesko who's going for similar. Yeah, I can't see United spending 300m without CL football.
 
Vanjagl said:
So that's 50m for Todibo, 100m for Neves, probably 60-70 for Olise. Over 200m without Frimpong ( who's going to be 50m+) and Sesko who's going for similar. Yeah, I can't see United spending 300m without CL football.
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Todibo clause is 40m euros. Olise is £50/60m. Frimpong clause this summer is 34m euros. Yeah Neves would be between 80-100m euros. No idea on Sesko but tbh I think he will end up at Arsenal.

Tbh no idea on what our budget is I guess it will be around £250m after wages saved and sales. Ineos/SJR, Willcox, Berrada, Blanc will have to be smart that’s for sure. In theory these should be easy deals they all have clause and are seriously interested in coming and have been in talks with some for a while. But let’s see.
 
Shots fired. The underlying threat of protest at the match should resinate with INEOS you would think.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1795147256754004365

I get legends point that those in charge shouldn’t be swayed by the fans. Which in the main is bang on. But Utds match going support are the most important thing in all this and know the club and whats best for the club, far better than a part-ownership group thats been there 3/4 months. And has gone through 6 managers to no success already in a short space of time in France.
 
There you go ToD.

WTF is Joel Glazer doing involved on the football side? Thats now all INEOS and Ratcliffe controlled right? Wasn’t that Radcliffe's line he’s sold everyone on? Tell me how this is any different from any other manager they’ve S all over and sacked?

Bedfellows. That’s exactly what I was mooting a few posts ago.

INEOS aren’t controlling anything without the Glazers say so. And Ratcliffe has kept them in power.

www.bbc.co.uk

Man Utd news: Joel Glazer and Sir Jim Ratcliffe lead review

Man Utd news: Joel Glazer and Sir Jim Ratcliffe lead review
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
There you go ToD.

WTF is Joel Glazer doing involved on the football side? Thats now all INEOS and Ratcliffe controlled right? Wasn’t that Radcliffe's line he’s sold everyone on? Tell me how this is any different from any other manager they’ve S all over and sacked?

Bedfellows. That’s exactly what I was mooting a few posts ago.

INEOS aren’t controlling anything without the Glazers say so. And Ratcliffe has kept them in power.

www.bbc.co.uk

Man Utd news: Joel Glazer and Sir Jim Ratcliffe lead review

Man Utd news: Joel Glazer and Sir Jim Ratcliffe lead review
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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I’m not shocked at all tbh I wouldn’t expect anything other. At the end of the day they are majority holders and will still have a say on things from a financial view. What remains to be seen is who will make the final decision when it finally comes out if he stays or goes.
 
woolly said:
It was always part of the deal that the Glazers would have last say on anything money related and sacking the manager (and therefore having to pay compensation) is money related. Ratcliffe was a mug to ever think he would be able to do what he wants.
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No question. Everyone with an ounce of realism knows who's running the show after Ratcliffe gave them an out to stay owning the club. That wasn't the crux there .....

INEOS have sold this to the masses that they are in total charge of football ops ..... In which case, Joel Glazer should have NO part in any review of that. Signing off on him going/ a new manager coming in should be as far as their part goes.

Effectively nothing has changed. Just some new appointments and titles. And won't until you cut off the snakes head.
 
woolly said:
It was always part of the deal that the Glazers would have last say on anything money related and sacking the manager (and therefore having to pay compensation) is money related. Ratcliffe was a mug to ever think he would be able to do what he wants.
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Where has he ever said this?
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
No question. Everyone with an ounce of realism knows who's running the show after Ratcliffe gave them an out to stay owning the club. That wasn't the crux there .....

INEOS have sold this to the masses that they are in total charge of football ops ..... In which case, Joel Glazer should have NO part in any review of that. Signing off on him going/ a new manager coming in should be as far as their part goes.

Effectively nothing has changed. Just some new appointments and titles. And won't until you cut off the snakes head.
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Again not true the papers have sold that not Ineos themselves. Ratcliffe has said from the off in his first interview with the bbc and on MUTV it would always be done with the Glazer.

Whoever thought or believed Ineos was ever gonna have TOTAL control was naive.

Least things are being done since SJR came in. If the Glazers were still in total control. Carrington wouldn’t be getting 10s of millions spent over the summer on a complete refurb/modernisation. Woody, Murtaugh, Arnold would still be here.

Everyone out of contract would be getting new deals “to protect asset value”

There wouldn’t be any hope of a new stadium or a stadium refurb depending on what route they decide. And the roof wouldn’t have been fixed at OT.

Let’s not start painting people with the Glazer brush just yet. They have done more in 6 months than they have in 10+ years.
 
woolly said:
The Glazers were and are more than happy (or should that read Avram Glazer he is the one who wants to keep his grubby fingers in the 'pie') to let Ratcliffe throw his money at the club, just as long as they have the final say and continue to get their dividends. Yet Ratcliffe still went ahead to stoke his ego.
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You haven’t answered the question. Where did SJR “mug” once say he can do what he wants with the club. And where is it said they will have the final say on ETH. Yes they will be involved as they should it’s there club. Which they have destroyed no doubt!
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
But Utds match going support are the most important thing in all this and know the club and whats best for the club, far better than a part-ownership group thats been there 3/4 months. And has gone through 6 managers to no success already in a short space of time in France.
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Our match going support also chanted Jose Mourinho’s name during a match in the LVG era so their opinions aren’t as infallible as you make it seem.


That said, I do agree that Ratcliffe & co don’t know any better hence why this decision really should be left to Berrada/Ashworth.
 
Legend Incredible said:
Our match going support also chanted Jose Mourinho’s name during a match in the LVG era so their opinions aren’t as infallible as you make it seem.


That said, I do agree that Ratcliffe & co don’t know any better hence why this decision really should be left to Berrada/Ashworth.
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You could be onto something there. Especially Berrada who had ETH down on his shortlist of managers to replace Pep. And likely ties into this report coming out over night.

| Key INEOS figures now support Erik ten Hag after meetings with players and staff, recognizing challenges like injuries and off-field issues. Kieran McKenna is no longer a viable option, and there's little trust in finding a better alternative to Ten Hag.His future, however, remains uncertain, with no imminent decision expected from the INEOS season review. [
@SamC_reports
]

It’s been noted that Injuries have significantly impacted team performance, contributing to some of the challenges faced on the field. Also the off-field Issues regarding Antony, Greenwood, Sancho & Rashford. How these off-field issues have been handled has garnered positive feedback, especially from INEOS, recognizing the efforts to maintain professionalism and address problems effectively.[
@SamC_reports
] #mufc
 
| At #mufc, INEOS want to:- Become more cost-effective as a business.- Introduce a more collaborative approach at Carrington by creating new communal areas for the manager, coaches and backroom staff.- Upgrade the gym facilities at the training ground.- Cut loose the staff who are not committed to the new regime.[
@hirstclass
,
@CharDuncker
]

| One of the main concerns that INEOS have is that #mufc have been bringing in record revenues for the past few years but are still reporting losses. [@hirstclass, @CharDuncker]
 
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