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Had a **** nights sleep at work last night so I am just passing time so I can nap, anyway to pass time been youtubing Ronaldo (no not Cristiano) and I tell you something I forgot just how good he was. I mean I grew up watching him so I was aaware he was a genuine world class striker but it is easy to forget just how good he was.

He really had everything, Pace, Power, Technique etc, if he hadnt got those bad injuries I truly believe we would be putting him in the best ever category. Anyway the thing that surprised me the most was how skilful he was, how he could easily turn a player inside out with his footwork, I had actually forgotten he had the skills of a winger and that was one of the reasons that he was so dangerous when you mix it with the rest of his attributes.

Tremendous player and ould be argued he set the tone for the modern centre forward, just a shame about those injuries
 
That hatty of Ronaldo's at OT when McManaman run riot on the way to another Madrid European Cup triumph in Paris .....

[video=youtube;-0QiX2KgiV8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0QiX2KgiV8[/video]

I'd LOVE to know what REALLY went down before the '98 final when he should never of played. Frigging Nike!

LEGEND!
 
That hatty of Ronaldo's at OT when McManaman run riot on the way to another Madrid European Cup triumph in Paris .....

[video=youtube;-0QiX2KgiV8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0QiX2KgiV8[/video]

I'd LOVE to know what REALLY went down before the '98 final when he should never of played. Frigging Nike!

LEGEND!

I remember that match, it was actually a cracking game of football, and that Real team **** me was they good when they clicked so many legends.

Mad thing is this was when he was considered finished too and he still pulled it out the bag, I love him I had just forgotten how much. Absolutely unplayable on his day and yeah probably never know what happened before the final unless he releases an autobiography. He would probably still get in the Brazil team now theyre that short up front haha
 
Sad that I wasent watching that much of football as I was just too young.

Some good read I stumbled across.
Ronaldo: in touching distance of being the greatest


it was a fantastic era all round, mainly because defenders still knew how to defend, but it also had Zizou who is my favourite ever player, no one will beat that man in my eyes he was an alien from another world.
 
it was a fantastic era all round, mainly because defenders still knew how to defend, but it also had Zizou who is my favourite ever player, no one will beat that man in my eyes he was an alien from another world.

My favourite all time non-L'pool player is Van Basten. God knows how much more he'd of achieved if hadn't been so cruelly robbed by injury of the best years of his career. Probably a good thing I'm not at home or else I'd be gushing forever about that mans abilities right now haha.
 
My favourite all time non-L'pool player is Van Basten. God knows how much more he'd of achieved if hadn't been so cruelly robbed by injury of the best years of his career. Probably a good thing I'm not at home or else I'd be gushing forever about that mans abilities right now haha.

yeah great player sadly just before my time, so I didn't get to appreciate just how good he was, I think you have to have had the opportunity to watch them consistently and also compare them to what else was around in that era. Tbh if Ronaldinho had not fallen out of love with the game and decided to go partying instead I would have very different thoughts on who was my favorite player.
 
yeah great player sadly just before my time, so I didn't get to appreciate just how good he was, I think you have to have had the opportunity to watch them consistently and also compare them to what else was around in that era. Tbh if Ronaldinho had not fallen out of love with the game and decided to go partying instead I would have very different thoughts on who was my favorite player.

****, one of my favourite all time players, certainly my favourite British non-red, is a player I never once saw play and can only go by film. Denis Law.

Who incidentally is one of the single nicest people you'll ever meet. Shared a train journey back to Piccadilly from Euston with him when I just plonked myself down on his table in the first class carriage I was walking through and wasn't even ticketed in, haha, and he very happily indulged me with tale after tale for the few hours back up the tracks. Top, top fella'. Couldn't get him to diss that drunken cretin Best though as hard as I tried like. Lol.
 
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Too early to do our season predictions? Last year we went on the eve of the season.

Leave it a other week or so?
 
Too early to do our season predictions? Last year we went on the eve of the season.

Leave it a other week or so?

You read my mind, I think especially with the big teams still to conclude business we should maybe wait till after the community shield at the earliest what do you think?
 
You read my mind, I think especially with the big teams still to conclude business we should maybe wait till after the community shield at the earliest what do you think?

Yeah, sounds like a plan. Back end of that week, or probably the Friday before the first games I'll throw mine up.
 
Was thinking we could tweak the template this year

top 4

underachiever of the season

overachiever of the season

bottom 3

obviously the underachiever and overchiever can be included in top 4/bottom 3
 
Was thinking we could tweak the template this year

top 4

underachiever of the season

overachiever of the season

bottom 3

obviously the underachiever and overchiever can be included in top 4/bottom 3

Oh, if you want to go like that, I'm all but good to go now.
 
Was thinking we could tweak the template this year

top 4

underachiever of the season

overachiever of the season

bottom 3

obviously the underachiever and overchiever can be included in top 4/bottom 3

So I was thinking about this today, and I really can't see any proposed signings changing my view between now and a week Sat'day.

I like the new format, but I'mma add the European places for no other reason than they're on my mind.

I'll preface this by saying ANYONE who get's in the top 4, let alone wins the league this year, will of had a marvellous season and totally earn't that spot. If we say the traditional big 4 (Arsenal, L'pool, Utd and Tottenham) is now a 6 with the additions of Chelsea and City, that's at least 2 major clubs missing out. Securing a Champions League slot will be as hard as it's every been and in truth you could guess at the top 4 a multitude of different ways and make a real strong case for each one.

That said, here's my prediction for the 2016-17 Premier League:

1) Liverpool.
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2) Tottenham.
3) Manchester City.
4) Manchester United.
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5). Arsenal.
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As the League Cup/ FA Cup Winners are invariably a team that finishes in the European places, for the sake of those places then going to the PL:

6) Everton.
7) Chelsea.

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18) Burnley.
19) Watford.
20) Hull City.

Underachiever of the Season:

I guess from the above you could say either Manchester club given the weight of expectation behind the respective new managers there, but I'm gonna' say Leicester City. I can see them going from Champions to the bottom third/ in/on the fringe of the relegation fight

Overachiever of the Season:

Again, from the above, the obvious one would be L'pool ending the 26 year title drought. But I'm gonna' stick with the City's other side, Everton. I really like Koeman and how he works, and the signs are there already this pre-season of how hard he's worked with them the training pitch to get his ideas across in totally changing not only the way they play, but his system which is foreign to them. They still need to upgrade, coaching and team spirit still overcomes a LOT in this game and he has that in abundance wherever he's been. A return to Europe would be a fantastic first year return WELL beyond any blues current expectation.
 
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I'm going to make my predictions now as why not

1) Manchester United surprise choice for me I know
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2) Manchester City

3) Tottenham

4) Chelsea
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5) Arsenal
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6) Leicester

7) Stoke

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18) Burnley

19) Middlesbrough

20) Hull

Underachiever: Few to pick from, I think Middlesbrough will underwhelm despite a lot of people liking them but will go for West Ham. While they have recruited well for some reason I feel like they won't do well this season. I can also see Hull easily "beating" Derby's record of 11 points but, I don't think people expect much more.

Overachiever: Going to go for Stoke, while I only have them going up two places it would be a very good season for them if they could get Europe through the league and I think that they have a really good squad with some top class players especially in Imbula at CM
 
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