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Scouseinthehouse said:
Please cobble the money together to take Ryan Kent by next Thursday.

Best for all parties.
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To be honest we dont need winger, If Roofie is out then striker is a must and still woud like a new defender...
Costa was amazing loan for us with option to buy, after that transfers have been nothing...

Kent would be interesting, but would be only loan move i would think. No need on winger permenant. And you have good way of clubs overpaying for your wingers...
 
Bujakaa92 said:
Have to agree on Scous here. Yes VVD money was also crazy but he was living up to the hype and was huge for Southampton.

Maguieri with price tag 85mil just seems off... Maybe he will probve wrong but the pressure is huge and definetly upgrade in everysense from united defensive view. +Eng tax

It is just good to have basically endless pockets
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Its 80 and Maguire has been huge for Leicester and just as good as VD tbh.

Will on see if it’s worth it based on performances I guess. But can only see good things coming from Maguire
 
Not to mention Van Dijk in todays market is probably £100m+.... the prices keep going up folks.
 
Bujakaa92 said:
To be honest we dont need winger, If Roofie is out then striker is a must and still woud like a new defender...
Costa was amazing loan for us with option to buy, after that transfers have been nothing...

Kent would be interesting, but would be only loan move i would think. No need on winger permenant. And you have good way of clubs overpaying for your wingers...
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Crud.

A loans no use at all to him mate. That won't be happening again. And being stuck with another years 23's football is another set back. He needs to be starting his career in earnest somewhere on a permy basis. He's 22 now. The same the likes of Ejaria, George, Wilson etc. in that age bracket.

No doubt they'll have a real decent career somewhere. Kent's a very tidy, quick, direct old-school type of winger. And it's been noticeable this pre-season how he's developed physically his year up in Scotland. Just nowhere near the very top level we're now at.

Hopefully for everyones sake valuations are met and they get to move on and finally kick-start there careers by next Thursday tea-time.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Crud.

A loans no use at all to him mate. That won't be happening again. And being stuck with another years 23's football is another set back. He needs to be starting his career in earnest somewhere on a permy basis. He's 22 now. The same the likes of Ejaria, George, Wilson etc. in that age bracket.

No doubt they'll have a real decent career somewhere. Kent's a very tidy, quick, direct old-school type of winger. And it's been noticeable this pre-season how he's developed physically his year up in Scotland. Just nowhere near the very top level we're now at.

Hopefully for everyones sake valuations are met and they get to move on and finally kick-start there careers by next Thursday tea-time.
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Had seen talks that he maybe goes back.?

That age true, should be playing every week. For wilson aint there still hope he stays with you and soon maybe first team player? He is very tidy player and if someone can get him for good price has very good future PL player in their hands.
 
Bujakaa92 said:
Had seen talks that he maybe goes back.?

That age true, should be playing every week. For wilson aint there still hope he stays with you and soon maybe first team player? He is very tidy player and if someone can get him for good price has very good future PL player in their hands.
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Wilson's a complete paradox. All he does os assist and score. But he completely disappears for large chunks of games. And his tactical. defensive side leaves a lot to be desired which throws our whole shape out. There's just bits of his game that aren't there for the level we're now at. I'd be surprised, if he stayed, if he saw too much action this coming season. Fully expecting someone to come close the £25 million price and then a decision will have to be made.

Gerrard's been cheeky there with Kent thinking we'd let him go back up there for a year on sentiment. The most Rangers have offered thus far is around £4 million. And we aren't a charity for Steven Gerrard whatever his standing in the clubs history.
 
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Scouseinthehouse said:
Most manager's still have the final say in England as well the top end which Leicester are trying to break into.

It depends on your model.
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Yes, but thats completely different from being heavily involved in transfers
He'll say if he wants or does want a player, outside of that like most managers that transfer isn't in his hands. He won't have been anywhere near the negotiations
 
Now you're arguing semantics.

I never suggested Rodgers would be handling negotiations. I just said he (being part of the final process) and Leicester had played a blinder IMHO.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Now you're arguing semantics.

I never suggested Rodgers would be handling negotiations. I just said he (being part of the final process) and Leicester had played a blinder IMHO.
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he wouldnt have been part of that, indeed he wasnt. His own words. Can't play a "blinder" in something you're not part of
 
So he didn't have the final say on whether he wanted him to stay until their valuation had been met or not?

Make your mind up. This is getting confusing.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
So he didn't have the final say on whether he wanted him to stay until their valuation had been met or not?

Make your mind up. This is getting confusing.
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"Every player has his price, we need to make sure we secure a replacement" is what he said. " we know who we want, and we're moving on that, the money, that's with the boys who look after that"

He doesn't handle anything to do with valuation. Neither would Klopp, or Solskjaer, nor Poch. It's really not confusing at all if one has any inkling as to how clubs work. Appreciate not everyone gets an inside view but this idea that managers sign off on final figures is wrong
 
Again. semantics and you're now playing with the point. (I never even suggested he set the valuation on the player.).

Which is rendering this discussion completely pointless.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Behave mate hey? van Dijk was already among the top CH's in the league on a massive upward trajectory before we signed him. Had he not let it be known from the outset he only wanted to play in one place, there'd have been an outright bidding war between the top 6. Doubtless Utd included. He's just continued on that path at ours. You'd be struggling to put Maguire in the top 6 CH's in the league currently,

And this sounds like I don't like him. I do, He's a good, solid defender who instantly upgrades Utd. (Not that that's hard like as Sakho would upgrade on Jones on Smalling.). But when you're paying World record difference making money, that's what you expect. Not just 'good.' He's the type that takes you into the bracket of challenging for top 4. But if you've aspirations for ever challenging for the biggest prizes again, he's not the type to take you over the top.

Koulibaly's arriving for that? Or to a lesser extent de Ligt? You're sitting up and taking notice. Even Toby at his later stage of his career. Maguire it's just a 'meh.'

That's two of the top 6 most expensive defenders in history this summer. And will they improve the side to anything like that?

Leicester replace him with say Dunk and Cahill for a season or two, with the extra in the bank, they've done a roaring piece of business IMHO with out a greatly significant drop-off.
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Wrong. Big clubs weren't after VVD for 2 reason. He's a loose cannon and no body wanted to take risk because they already had established defenders. And two, same goes for HM, he was too expensive at the time. But Liverpool were desperate ( similarities, huh?) and it worked out for them. VVD fits Klopps system perfectly. He raised his game because of his manager and better teammates. Give the fair chance to HM as well. Its pretty much the same situation.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Again. semantics and you're now playing with the point. (I never even suggested he set the valuation on the player.).

Which is rendering this discussion completely pointless.
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It's not semantics. It's details, which absolutely matter. The only thing rendering this discussion pointless is your dismissal of details.
 
So now we're doing revisionist history on Van Dijk?

This is a night.

*Edit* Although I do like the way you just inferred City and Chelsea aren't big clubs V. That did tickle me.
 
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Mike. said:
It's not semantics. It's details, which absolutely matter. The only thing rendering this discussion pointless is your dismissal of details.
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Not at all. You're just trying to out smart yourself for heck knows why? And then being condescending with it.

He was involved in the process.That isn't to say he was involved in setting a fee/ negotiations, or whatever else you want to add. You keep going off on tangents to things that aren't being said. But hey, if it'll help let's take Brendan completely out of the equation and say Leicester played a blinder.

Better?
 
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