Also regarding your second paragraph. what the **** do you mean by 'making positive change'?
How can one feel like they have any influence on change from a common man when not only are we ruled from twonks in parliament but also Brussels as well.
I'm going to be brutally honest here and if I get infracted for it, so be it. It means getting off your ******* **** and making a difference. Not simultaneously ******** that immigrants are consuming your benefits and somehow stealing your job. Not ******** that the political system is corrupt and doing **** all about it, refusing to engage in grass roots politics. It means putting the ******* work in. You are not entitled to a good life, it is not the natural order of things. We have evolved as a pleasant society precisely because sometimes people put the ******* effort in and instead of saying "
but what about me?" they do what's right If you want to be cynical and defeatist, then you don't get to ***** that the world isn't better because your apathy is part of the problem. You will utlimately reap exactly what you sow, which is fields and fields of ****. Like I said to Scouse in the Liverpool thread a while back, it's a shame I felt they got played a little but holy ****, props to them for actually having the energy and the passion to go out there and fight. We have our disagreements but ultimately I respect him because he will go back to the wall for what he believes in.
If people had this attitude throughout history then women wouldn't have rights, blacks would still be slaves and we would all be owned by feudalistic lords. Honestly it's a ******* cop out and I'm sick of it at this point. Yes you're disillusioned. Great. No one gives a ****. You can feel sorry for yourself and moan, or you can help people trying to actually make a difference. When you feel you can't make a difference, you don't say "oh well" pack up and then ***** until you die. You keep trying and keep making ground. It's what other people do and it's what causes societal change in the first place.
staying in an EU which already has a lot of problems
This is undoubtedly true and **** everyone who tries to pretend differently. **** the remain campaign for dismissing everyone who voted to leave as racists and bigots. The EU has lots and lots of problems and we should be addressing them. That doesn't mean we throw the baby out with the bathwater though.
and hasn't done much for me in my circumstances.
If everyone had this view, you wouldn't have a vote.
Not to mention the fact that EU moved Peugeot Ryton factory relatively local to me to Slovakia which cost thousands of jobs back in 2007/2008 which I still haven't got over partially.
That wasn't the EU that did it: it's the fact that Peugot were able to make a much bigger margin by moving it. And frankly, you don't get to moan about that, because you've already said you're looking after yourself when it comes to politics. In that case, you can't expect businesses to do anything but the same. Did they have a social and moral responsibility to try and keep those jobs open if they could? Yes, but that would require them to look at the greater good, something you won't do, so why should they?
There is many reasons I dislike EU, but I just felt change is necessary
There is no change coming that is good for you. You just handed even more power to a government that doesn't care about your welfare, to the branch of it that actively wants to do everything in their power to make sure you get as ****** as possible so that big business can prosper.
but it's like anything in life, stepping into new times is scary at first, but you don't know what the future holds, so why assume you do?
Because I'm not an idiot. I have seen firsthand what the effects of Blairite and then Tory cuts have done to this country and to its public services especially. I have seen what happens when you give power to these people. I have seen the toaster dropped into the bath enough times to know what will happen. Your argument essentially boils down to "but this time it's a Breville" and I'm sure you'll be the first to complain when it electrocutes you.
I know this will all read as being pretty harsh, but better to have the truth than the endless lies both sides keep pushing. I have a great deal of empathy for being angry, disillusioned, feeling helpless and trapped. I know what it can be like to see no future and just want things to change so badly. But you turn those feelings into something worthwhile and you make that change happen and you make sure it's the right one.
Louisa Compton
