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There isn't a discussion. I would prefer Sanchez, because whenever I see him, it's pretty clear he's a better player than Young. Your stats or opinion aren't going to change that so I don't know what your point is :S
Whose stats are that?
Stats aside, Sanchez is easily better player, it is not even for debate. From Jan he is nothing sort of brilliant.. He is not a typical wenger who likes to hug touch line or whip in a cross. He cuts inside and would be perfect for 4-3-3 rather than 4-4-2..
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Topic seems a bit redundant as Young's pretty much joined.
All I did was interject with why Sanchez wasn't that good. You said that you disagreed with it. I feel obliged to defend my point.
That's a value judgement you've just said. I've actively backed up my point with stats, unlike you, who just claim that he's "a better player than Young". I'm telling you your opinion is flawed and perhaps you should think about it more, not demanding that you change it immediately.
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It's debatable whether Sanchez is a winger AT ALL. As I said, he's spent almost all of the season in the centre. His crossing is dire, and whether you're on the wing or playing off the striker you should have at least decent crossing ability.
Interestingly, you've just pointed out one of his main flaws: he wouldn't be suited to a 4-4-2 (or the 4-4-1-1 that United play) unless he was played as the withdrawn striker, the position that Rooney plays. Frankly, he's not going to displace one of the finest 10s in the world, he can't play on the wing in a 4-4-1-1, and he isn't quite a prima punta like Hernandez. Therefore, where would he fit in? Maybe if Hernandez was dropped and Rooney moved up top, but that means dropping Hernandez for Sanchez in a like for like replacement, and frankly Hernandez wins. He's more clinical, works harder, runs better lines and works the channels well.
The crux of the matter here isn't so much that Young is an inferior player to Sanchez, but that Sanchez wouldn't fit into United's shape unless they're willing to drop a key player.
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He's already made his mind up, United offered 45K more a week than we did.
Nah, he wants European football. Hopefully City will sign him instead, but it does seem unlikely
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Says enough really.
It's my opinion, and this is not the first time I've seen you struggle to understand that. As I say, I'll use my eyes to form an opinion on a player; not a load of numbers.
And that will be the end of this "discussion''.
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Old rumour from Schalke's official Facebook profile
Tottenham to bid Kranjcar + cash for Huntelaar.
Tottenham to bid Kranjcar + cash for Huntelaar.
Well, I'm sorry that you rely on flawed ideas to support an unbalanced argument. Maybe you should use your eyes to form judgements and then check them with real facts. Never mind.
That would be a baaad deal. Huntelaar is the best penalty box finisher in the world, but awful at everything else. Last of the true poachers, and the game has moved on from that.
Lol, I asked whether those are Young's or Sanchez's stats..
Yes, Young fits in well than Sanchez. I never said otherwise. Sanchez is a better player, but Young fits 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 that we prefer..
Ronaldo's crossing was average, but did superbly well as RW for us. Crossing is not everything for a winger. Game has evolved so much that you need variety of play. Well in premier league Winger's most important attribute is crossing though, as in other league crossing is not as much used as in this league.
To put in very simple words, Sanchez is a better player (I dont even think it is debatable) but for 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 we need Young more than Snachez..
Lol, I asked whether those are Young's or Sanchez's stats..
Yes, Young fits in well than Sanchez. I never said otherwise. Sanchez is a better player, but Young fits 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 that we prefer..
Ronaldo's crossing was average, but did superbly well as RW for us. Crossing is not everything for a winger. Game has evolved so much that you need variety of play. Well in premier league Winger's most important attribute is crossing though, as in other league crossing is not as much used as in this league.
To put in very simple words, Sanchez is a better player (I dont even think it is debatable) but for 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 we need Young more than Snachez..
Ah, apologies. Those are Sanchez' stats. Young, by comparison, has scored 5 less goals (playing in a much less advanced position) but 4 more assists.
I know you never said otherwise, just me musing to myself.
Thing is with Ronaldo, his final ball was much better than everyone gave him credit for, and he was a much more complete player than Sanchez. He could always use his strength and power to create goals or more critically space to do something in. Not to mention creatively and technically he was superior. Ronaldo's problem was his consistency, which was worked on to fantastic effect. Sanchez is more consistent, but doesn't have the high-end performance Ronaldo had.So yeah, I don't think Sanchez is suited to you. Good player, but just not right.
Again, there was no argument. Secondly, a minute ago you were saying I hadn't backed up my points, now all of a sudden I have flawed ideas oO)
Anyway, I'm done reading what you have to say. You're ignorant, arrogant and incredibly annoying.
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Yeah, It's an old rumour (around 1 month), that is going to stay a rumour...
Well he, unlike you, is actually backing up his points.
By saying ''there is no argument'' etc, it is actually you who is proving to be, as you so eloquently put it; '' ignorant, arrogant and incredibly annoying''
Ah, apologies. Those are Sanchez' stats. Young, by comparison, has scored 5 less goals (playing in a much less advanced position) but 4 more assists.
I know you never said otherwise, just me musing to myself.
So yeah, I don't think Sanchez is suited to you. Good player, but just not right.
Agreed, but not entirely with Sanchez end product. This is like saying Bale end product is not good when he puts world class crosses only for Spurs strikers to mess up chances. Sanchez creates lot of scoring chances. With quality player his stats look lot better.
Anyways will leave the end product issue as it is impossible to prove..
Sanchez is strong on the ball, he can beat his man for fun and is very skillful. He is absolutely joy to watch and is real quick. Only negative is his crossing is not good, but I think wingers can contribute even without crossing. He is very deadly cutting in..
He is not suited to (Or less effective) 4-4-2 but for a quality player like him you can change your tactics. He is real talent to miss out, shame though as chances pf getting him are slim to impossible
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This is forum. When you post something, someone else will post on the same topic. If you have points, you have to back up your post or at least open to/listen to what someone is saying instead of shutting doors saying "This is my opinion".
Before you jump in, perhaps you should look back and read what is going on here. I said, I'd prefer Sanchez to Young, he then pretty much said I was wrong for doing so. That's not an argument, that's one guy saying "you shouldn't have an opinion because these numbers prove you wrong''. Although, he only posted the amount of assists Sanchez got last season, nothing else; not even Young's stats to back up this "argument'' he is intent on having.
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Stop the ********, for God's sake.
You missed out smelly.
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Certainly not. He'd deny it was actually a fight halfway through.
Sadly, yes. I do like Huntelaar, he'd be a superb player if he played 10 years ago. Shame.
Well, he has Antonio Di Natale, arguably the best striker in Serie A, in front of him.
But I see your point.The thing is, would you move Rooney/Hernandez out of their favoured positions (tactically) to fit in Sanchez? I wouldn't. Still, we'll see. Rumours were linking him to Barca, which seem perfect(ish) for him really.
In an on-topic note: Clicky
Found that interesting. A quick, clinical, hungry striker with Prem experience and a point to prove? Seems like a decent idea for QPR really. That said, it is the Metro.
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