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Manchester United to sign Phil Jones | Mail Online

Phil Jones will finally move to Manchester United after the Barclays Premier League champions refused to budge on their £16.5million offer for the Blackburn defender.

Following a meeting with manager Steve Kean in India, Rovers owners Venky’s admitted defeat in their attempts to force United to pay more.

There were suggestions the deal could be in jeopardy or that United might at least agree to pay various add-ons that could push the eventual figure past £20m.

But they are sticking to the £16.5m release clause in the 19-year-old’s contract, safe in the knowledge that Blackburn are powerless to stop him leaving.

Venky’s had attempted to block the deal, claiming they would not be bullied into accepting United’s bid for a player they value at £25m when there were other offers from Arsenal, Liverpool and Tottenham.

However, they were forced to accept that the clause — inserted into Jones’s contract in February — had been ratified by their own executives and could not be challenged.

The situation was further complicated by Liverpool lodging a new £22m bid over the weekend, but Jones’s desire to join United meant his move to Old Trafford was never in doubt.

In a further twist, Venky’s are suspicious that United knew the exact figure of the release clause, and considered calling in the Premier League to investigate if an illegal approach had been made.

There are similarities with Christian Ziege’s departure from Middlesbrough in 2000, when Liverpool signed the Germany full back for the £5.5m release clause in his contract even though Chelsea and Rangers were offering £8m.
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Ultimately, offering more than a realease cause is OBVIOUSLY a team trying to out-bid the others to get the upper hand.. Why get the Premier League to investigate it? The Venky's know nothing about football, infuriates me. Release clauses are there for a reason and if they are not happy with £16.5million then they need a slap! It does come down to who the player wants to join.
 
Sorry to burst your bubble, but I really wouldn't trust the Mirror. Good at times, and have some decent writers, but half of their stories are untrue. For example, two weeks ago they said Arsenal had finalised the Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain deal and that it would be announced on Jul 1st. Then at the end of last week, they said Liverpool were frontrunners..

Also - According to Matt Law from the Express, the release clause was £17M, not £16M. Although maybe that's just rounding up the 0.5M
 
Just been thinking, if Nasri really wanted to move to United isn't there a rule that U-24's can buy out the final year of their contract?
 
DMF said:
Just been thinking, if Nasri really wanted to move to United isn't there a rule that U-24's can buy out the final year of their contract?
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I think his agent is more just thinking that they might have to settle with Utd if Wenger won't give him enough dosh. Hey - here's an idea: He can join Ashley Young on the subs bench on 130k/week ;)
 
Joss said:
Sorry to burst your bubble, but I really wouldn't trust the Mirror. Good at times, and have some decent writers, but half of their stories are untrue. For example, two weeks ago they said Arsenal had finalised the Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain deal and that it would be announced on Jul 1st. Then at the end of last week, they said Liverpool were frontrunners..

Also - According to Matt Law from the Express, the release clause was £17M, not £16M. Although maybe that's just rounding up the 0.5M
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No official statement has been made by either clubs, so whatever is posted you can take with pinch of salt.

Independent:
United land Jones for £16.5m (again) - Transfers, Football - The Independent

Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ited-after-Blackburn-Rovers-admit-defeat.html

And one more

United land Jones for £16.5m (again)

By Ian Herbert, Northern Football Correspondent
Monday, 13 June 2011

Kenny Dalglish knew Phil Jones' heart was set on Old Trafford, so there may have been Anfield mischief

Manchester United have refused to allow Blackburn Rovers to drive up the price for centre-half Phil Jones and, despite a late attempt by Liverpool to capitalise on the chaos surrounding the player's transfer, confirmation of the £16.5m deal is expected imminently.

Liverpool tabled a £22m counter-bid for Jones on Saturday, after it emerged that Rovers' Indian owners, Venky's, were insisting that the £16m get-out clause written into the player's contract was merely a starting figure for negotiations. The Liverpool manager, Kenny Dalglish, knew Jones' heart was set on Old Trafford and there appears to have been an element of mischief in Anfield's attempts to gazump United and thus potentially drive up the price.

The Indians were advised that the get-out clause allows Jones to move to any club which offers the stipulated sum and the original £16.5m sale of Jones was actually concluded on Saturday.

United's refusal to offer more than their original figure for Jones is, in part, based on the outcome of the High Court case which followed Christian Ziege's move from Middlesbrough to Liverpool in August 2000.

Although Middlesbrough argued that Glasgow Rangers and Chelsea had both offered £7.5m for Ziege, Justice Astill said that the German had no market value as a player because Middlesbrough had agreed to allow him the £5.5m release clause. The clause "effectively removed [Middlesbrough] from the picture. [The club] was left with no choice; a choice which it would otherwise have had under the terms of the standard contract," the court found.

Blackburn's only recourse to compensation is based on United's knowledge of the £16m release clause – commercially confidential information which enabled them to bid at virtually the lowest price possible to trigger the sale of Jones. Rovers may negotiate a compromise with United, based on Jones' appearances and trophies United win with him, to avoid a drawn-out legal battle on this point. Middlesbrough pursued Liverpool through the courts on similar grounds, arguing that the buying club profited from confidential information to bid at Ziege's exact £5.5m release clause figure.

At the time, Middlesbrough alleged an illegal approach had been made to the player. The two sides settled out of court with the Premier League acting as a mediator.

Blackburn's case is complicated by the fact that it needed Venky's' football advisers to resolve the weekend's impasse by making the contractual situation clear to the Indians – namely, that the release clause had been inserted into Jones' contract when he agreed an extension to his terms in February.


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Joss said:
I think his agent is more just thinking that they might have to settle with Utd if Wenger won't give him enough dosh. Hey - here's an idea: He can join Ashley Young on the subs bench on 130k/week ;)
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And pick up league medal playing infront of 75K capacity crowd ;)
 
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Joss said:
I think his agent is more just thinking that they might have to settle with Utd if Wenger won't give him enough dosh. Hey - here's an idea: He can join Ashley Young on the subs bench on 130k/week ;)
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he would still have more fun than being on the field in an Arsenal shirt ;)
 
sunilvk7 said:
No official statement has been made by either clubs, so whatever is posted you can take with pinch of salt.

Independent:
United land Jones for £16.5m (again) - Transfers, Football - The Independent

Telegraph
Phil Jones to sign for Manchester United after Blackburn Rovers admit defeat - Telegraph

And one more

United land Jones for £16.5m (again)

By Ian Herbert, Northern Football Correspondent
Monday, 13 June 2011

Kenny Dalglish knew Phil Jones' heart was set on Old Trafford, so there may have been Anfield mischief

Manchester United have refused to allow Blackburn Rovers to drive up the price for centre-half Phil Jones and, despite a late attempt by Liverpool to capitalise on the chaos surrounding the player's transfer, confirmation of the £16.5m deal is expected imminently.

Liverpool tabled a £22m counter-bid for Jones on Saturday, after it emerged that Rovers' Indian owners, Venky's, were insisting that the £16m get-out clause written into the player's contract was merely a starting figure for negotiations. The Liverpool manager, Kenny Dalglish, knew Jones' heart was set on Old Trafford and there appears to have been an element of mischief in Anfield's attempts to gazump United and thus potentially drive up the price.

The Indians were advised that the get-out clause allows Jones to move to any club which offers the stipulated sum and the original £16.5m sale of Jones was actually concluded on Saturday.

United's refusal to offer more than their original figure for Jones is, in part, based on the outcome of the High Court case which followed Christian Ziege's move from Middlesbrough to Liverpool in August 2000.

Although Middlesbrough argued that Glasgow Rangers and Chelsea had both offered £7.5m for Ziege, Justice Astill said that the German had no market value as a player because Middlesbrough had agreed to allow him the £5.5m release clause. The clause "effectively removed [Middlesbrough] from the picture. [The club] was left with no choice; a choice which it would otherwise have had under the terms of the standard contract," the court found.

Blackburn's only recourse to compensation is based on United's knowledge of the £16m release clause – commercially confidential information which enabled them to bid at virtually the lowest price possible to trigger the sale of Jones. Rovers may negotiate a compromise with United, based on Jones' appearances and trophies United win with him, to avoid a drawn-out legal battle on this point. Middlesbrough pursued Liverpool through the courts on similar grounds, arguing that the buying club profited from confidential information to bid at Ziege's exact £5.5m release clause figure.

At the time, Middlesbrough alleged an illegal approach had been made to the player. The two sides settled out of court with the Premier League acting as a mediator.

Blackburn's case is complicated by the fact that it needed Venky's' football advisers to resolve the weekend's impasse by making the contractual situation clear to the Indians – namely, that the release clause had been inserted into Jones' contract when he agreed an extension to his terms in February.


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And pick up league medal playing infront of 75K capacity crowd ;)
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Nah, he wouldn't. Partly because we're going to win the league with Eden Hazard scoring the winner in spectacular style against United on the last day of the season, a little like this:

[video=youtube;sbASd5CU3H8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbASd5CU3H8[/video]

And partly because Nasri won't make 10 appearances in your rotation system (or lack thereof) :P
 
Joss said:
Nah, he wouldn't. Partly because we're going to win the league with Eden Hazard scoring the winner in spectacular style against United on the last day of the season, a little like this:

[video=youtube;sbASd5CU3H8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbASd5CU3H8[/video]

And partly because Nasri won't make 10 appearances in your rotation system (or lack thereof) :P
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atleast he wont have to watch you lose a 4-0 lead in the second half against a Bottom half Premiereship side and I think he might also win something in the next 10 years ;)
 
Joss said:
Nah, he wouldn't. Partly because we're going to win the league with Eden Hazard scoring the winner in spectacular style against United on the last day of the season, a little like this:

[video=youtube;sbASd5CU3H8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbASd5CU3H8[/video]

And partly because Nasri won't make 10 appearances in your rotation system (or lack thereof) :P
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Ah, posted this video more than thrice in 2 days if I'm not wrong..

Even Gibson has played 10 games. I dont think Nasri is any worse than Gibson.. ;)

Nasri would take paycut to join Champions ;)
 
sunilvk7 said:
Ah, posted this video more than thrice in 2 days if I'm not wrong..

Even Gibson has played 10 games. I dont think Nasri is any worse than Gibson.. ;)

Nasri would take paycut to join Champions ;)
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and take a paycut to win something i might add ;)
 
Joss said:
Nah, he wouldn't. Partly because we're going to win the league with Eden Hazard scoring the winner in spectacular style against United on the last day of the season, a little like this:
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And why will Barca player score a winner for you against Us.. :p
 
Joss said:
Nah, he wouldn't. Partly because we're going to win the league with Eden Hazard scoring the winner in spectacular style against United on the last day of the season, a little like this:

[video=youtube;sbASd5CU3H8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbASd5CU3H8[/video]

And partly because Nasri won't make 10 appearances in your rotation system (or lack thereof) :P
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Thats a bold prediction Joss, Wenger not bulking at a price tag 2 million more then he wants to pay ;)
 
Robert Earnshaw was set to sign for Blues from Forest until McCleish resigned

Danny Koevermans is set to join on a free later this week

Although deals for players may be put on the back burner until the manager situation is resolved
 
Everton looking to secure services of Sergio Canales on loan.

Everton keen on securing loan of Real Madrid starlet Sergio Canales - report - Goal.com

As to the rumors Moyes leaving, it would be very hypocritical of him. Since Martin O'Neill left, he has been linked with the job constantly and has said "im happy at Everton" all occasions. Before Houllior was appointed Moyes was odds-on favorite by a country mile! Would be a fool to join them lot anyway, with Young leaving their is no player in that Villa team id want playing for Everton. Oh well, its just rumors..
 
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