v0lliz - 433 V15.3.1

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Hi v0lliz , ML should be left footed and MR should be right footed for 4-5-1 tactic , right ?
 
cavoni said:
Hi v0lliz , ML should be left footed and MR should be right footed for 4-5-1 tactic , right ?
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Your choice, left foot for left and vice versa will make it easier for them to cross, if its the other way around It makes it easier for them to shoot at goal when an opportunity arises..
Depay were awesome as a left winger..
 
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Absolutley brilliant Volliz, best tactics on FM15 on any forum imho. Loads of success with your 433 v1 then v2. Now trying 451 with wingers pushed up as I love that formation. Works a treat in Blue square south with Leamington LOL, no signings default team, Love it :)
 
Hi v0lliz, these tactics are brilliant, they really are a joy to watch and score loads :) There is just one thing i'd like to ask, Iam Arsenal, and I have tried Lucas Romero and De Rossi as my ball winning midfielder and they are average at best, but when I play Arteta, Ozil or Wilshere as the ball winner they are great. Is it just me or do you find that playmaker sorts actually play better in this system as the ball winners? Or is just me? With this in mind, I'm about to go into a new season, and I was thinking of buying Koke to play as the ball winner because he is a playmaker sort but can defend too, any suggestions or alternatives? Playmaker sorts or natural ball winners for the role? I'm just a bit confused who to go for... cheers :)
 
Falcon 09 said:
Hi v0lliz, these tactics are brilliant, they really are a joy to watch and score loads :) There is just one thing i'd like to ask, Iam Arsenal, and I have tried Lucas Romero and De Rossi as my ball winning midfielder and they are average at best, but when I play Arteta, Ozil or Wilshere as the ball winner they are great. Is it just me or do you find that playmaker sorts actually play better in this system as the ball winners? Or is just me? With this in mind, I'm about to go into a new season, and I was thinking of buying Koke to play as the ball winner because he is a playmaker sort but can defend too, any suggestions or alternatives? Playmaker sorts or natural ball winners for the role? I'm just a bit confused who to go for... cheers :)
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Glad you like em :D

Yeah, im also seeing the same thing. Not sure how FM rate their performance, perhaps a playmaker gets better scores as he contributes more in an attacking sense (key passes etc). I normally get a typical ball-winner tho, Kranevitter is someone i usually get as he performs ok and is relatively cheap.. But hey Koke should be great here, looks very similar to Can at Liverpool who were great in that pos :)
 
Have you ever thought about making a better version or v3 version mixing your great v2 and maybe what jonny has done with his tweaks?
 
I would say that BWM and the APs I would focus on the attacking side but would also have tackling stats at 12+ as they need to contribute in tackling as well, Gerdhardt is a great AP with good tackling!
 
DoubleR said:
Have you ever thought about making a better version or v3 version mixing your great v2 and maybe what jonny has done with his tweaks?
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Would love to, but i have lost track of what changes have been done. If JStweak11 is the latest i could take a look at it :)
 
I would still say v11 is the best of mine, the problem is I am willing to say you will never get 200+ goals unless you keep those 3 strikers up top
 
jonnysnipe said:
I would still say v11 is the best of mine, the problem is I am willing to say you will never get 200+ goals unless you keep those 3 strikers up top
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Cool, ill take a closer look at v11.
Yeah i totally agree, you need them to get the goals..
Im actually testing a lil right now, the original works great at home so im keeping it as is, but im trying to make something that is more stable away. But the ultimate would be to have one tactic for all games..
 
Btw, does anyone have any good tip for me when it comes to CB pos? Im always playing some big club so money is usually not a problem. Who works the best for you guys.Terry and Ivanovic is great, but they aint getting any younger ;)
 
Have you ever thought baout maybe.. having 1 or 2 defending midfielders and then 1 or 2 central midfielders? that way keeping the 3 strikers but having a slightly more solid midfield? Just throwing things in the air :P
 
Half way through my 2nd season with Crystal Palace using V2 this time plus the 4-5-1 for games against the big 4 plus Europe.

We are conceding less however noticing a lot less goals. In particular only my middle striker is scoring plus not seeing many from midfield. Still having a great season however I will be switching back to V1 with the Messi Leo set pieces for the 2nd half of the season.


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DoubleR said:
Have you ever thought baout maybe.. having 1 or 2 defending midfielders and then 1 or 2 central midfielders? that way keeping the 3 strikers but having a slightly more solid midfield? Just throwing things in the air :P
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Defending like in DM position or defend duty?

Iam currently experimenting a lil, but wont post something until it actually sticks..
 
I would agree maybe 2 dms and one CM the DMs dont even have to be on defend, maybe a regista DM combo
 
Just managed to sign Icardi for Crystal Palace! Any suggestions on where to play him. Have Giroud as my main striker with Munir and James Wilson up beside him
 
joewhite said:
you boys no a bit better than me but just putting the BWM-S down to a DM-D position should make a bit more support for the 2 centre backs so you might not need 2 defensive mids.
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You're absolutely right, and this have been tried by several players earlier on. Playing every game like that is not worth it in terms of goal ratio. However it could be a good idea for away matches. The original is great at home but most team using it will see less impressive results on their away table. Therefore im currently testing using the original at home and pulling the BWM down to DM postion giving him DMdefend duty. So far so good, but its still early times..
 
Hi Volliz, on your 433 original v2 the mcl has run wide with ball but the mcr does not.
Is that correct or perhaps both should or should not have the instruction?
I notice most of you instructions appear to be symmetrical.
I know it makes little difference but was just wondering :)

Thankyou
 
madmike said:
Hi Volliz, on your 433 original v2 the mcl has run wide with ball but the mcr does not.
Is that correct or perhaps both should or should not have the instruction?
I notice most of you instructions appear to be symmetrical.
I know it makes little difference but was just wondering :)

Thankyou
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Haha, yeah that was supposed to be symmetrical aswell :P Im currently testing with the run wide setting on both, but im not seeing much difference either way..
 
Ok thanks for replying. I think your 451 is brilliant, so balanced and stable. I use the 433 in cup games. Have had massive success with Leamington, Macclesfield Town and Tranmere in a network game. I dont tend to use top teams and I was dubious as so many tactics on these forums are tested with (yawn) Man Utd or Barca. But this really is the real deal so well done you have really extended the life of FM for me this year :)
 
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