VerZa's 4-3-3 - Breaking the record with Southampton

VerZa said:
Only the home one.. No OI's this time.
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Yes, I can confirm once more that the V2 is still working brilliantly. I think I was too impatient when I gave it a try with Man United. In addition, perhaps my strikers (Rooney and RVP) were just on a bud run or something, because I simply could not score with them.

On my new save Chelsea, we just strolled through the whole thing and won the league and the CL undefeated. Too easy, so I started a new save with Monaco (no transfers). Halfway through the season and things are looking extremely bright! :D

The game is so enjoyable right now. Cheers mate.
 
Gannicus said:
Yes, I can confirm once more that the V2 is still working brilliantly. I think I was too impatient when I gave it a try with Man United. In addition, perhaps my strikers (Rooney and RVP) were just on a bud run or something, because I simply could not score with them.

On my new save Chelsea, we just strolled through the whole thing and won the league and the CL undefeated. Too easy, so I started a new save with Monaco (no transfers). Halfway through the season and things are looking extremely bright! :D

The game is so enjoyable right now. Cheers mate.
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Let me know how it goes with your Monaco save :)
 
Just defeated Feyenoord 10-1 in the Euro League, holy ****!
 
Tripoligate4 said:
i ll give a test out
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Apparently it'll only work if you have a great IF. At least that's how it is in my case. I'm only using this tactic nowadays, played over 10 seasons with it for different teams and simply winning wherever I go.

My favourite formation is the 433 (with one striker) and in this patch, I believe this one is the best.
 
tested at 1st match nice chances and 3 goals via corner , with not real IF ...even that... i can say i am pleased enough..they didnt made chances so..not big pressure View attachment 274770
 
mojam99 said:
what are player roles in version 2 ?
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I cba to do a screenshot so:

------------------COMPLETE FORWARD---------------------------
----INSIDE FORWARD---------------WINGER--------------------
-----------ROAMING PM----------CENTRAL MID-----------------
-----------------------HALF BACK-------------------------------------
WINGBACK----CENTRE BACK-----CENTRE BACK----WINGBACK
-----------------------------GOALKEEPER-----------------------------


Your striker or your inside forward will be the top goal scorer, depending on how good they are. When I was playing as Chelsea, Diego Costa became top goalscorer, but when I was playing as Monaco my top goal scorer was Carrasco (left IF).
 
Second match again 0-5 win **** .. :D took IF munir loan... 2 goals at 1st debout
 
do u guys change anything on away games strong at home but loose every match away??
 
Celtic boy said:
do u guys change anything on away games strong at home but loose every match away??
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Nope, sticking with the same tactic both home and away. Works wonders for me. I'm always playing with "defensive organisation" (or whatever its called in English) as match preparation.
 
Gannicus said:
Nope, sticking with the same tactic both home and away. Works wonders for me. I'm always playing with "defensive organisation" (or whatever its called in English) as match preparation.
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yeah playing with palace but sure there's a away tactic on here I can find hehe thanks cool tactic smashing teams at home though :)
 
burtburt said:
How important would you say the midfielder roles are, do you think they can be changed to, for example, a CM-support and a AP-attack instead and still achieve the same results?
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To me, they're pretty important. Actually my midfielders score quite a lot of goals. I haven't tried to change them lately, as the current v2 tactic still works wonders to me. I'm just enjoying the game at the moment, as I don't have much time to play.
If you try it, please let me know how it works :)

At the moment I'm playing with Fulham. I'm in my second season, currently in the PL after getting promoted from the championship. I'm second in the PL atm, United is first (They're undefeated after 27 games, they're unstoppable). I've only lost one game so far this season, and that was against United away (1-0 defeat).

My team looks like this:
Koval, Joe Gomez, Sviatchenko, Balanta, Flanagan, Amartey, Lasse Vigen Christensen, Ruiz, Patrick Roberts (Just sold Andrija Zivkovic), Sisto, Woodrow.

Sisto (11 goals) and Woodrow (18 goals) are my star players.

If I'm leading with 15-20 minutes left, I often substitute Ruiz (CM, Auto) for a more defensive-orientated player, and change his role to defensive + I change the mentality to control.. If I'm at home, with a lot of ball poss, I might even change the tempo to slower, shorter passes etc, to waste more time.
 
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VerZa said:
To me, they're pretty important. Actually my midfielders score quite a lot of goals. I haven't tried to change them lately, as the current v2 tactic still works wonders to me. I'm just enjoying the game at the moment, as I don't have much time to play.
If you try it, please let me know how it works :)

At the moment I'm playing with Fulham. I'm in my second season, currently in the PL after getting promoted from the championship. I'm second in the PL atm, United is first (They're undefeated after 27 games, they're unstoppable). I've only lost one game so far this season, and that was against United away (1-0 defeat).

My team looks like this:
Koval, Joe Gomez, Sviatchenko, Balanta, Flanagan, Amartey, Lasse Vigen Christensen, Ruiz, Patrick Roberts (Just sold Andrija Zivkovic), Sisto, Woodrow.

Sisto (11 goals) and Woodrow (18 goals) are my star players.

If I'm leading with 15-20 minutes left, I often substitute Ruiz (CM, Auto) for a more defensive-orientated player, and change his role to defensive + I change the mentality to control.. If I'm at home, with a lot of ball poss, I might even change the tempo to slower, shorter passes etc, to waste more time.
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Roberts the inside forward I'm guessing?
 
mikeruttz said:
Roberts the inside forward I'm guessing?
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Yeah. I don't find him to be that great, but he's the only real option after I've sold Zivkovic, who was a beast.
Now I'm just trying to develop him, so that I can sell him for some cash.
 
I used the tactic with the inside forward on the left with Milan for 5 seasons, won 4 leagues, 2 champions leagues and a lot of other trophies and here are my impressions about this tactic:

GK and CB - I'm using Scuffet on the goal, with Balanta and Chiriches/Astori at the moment, and they are solid. The center backs can score a lot of goals for me, the best example beeing Balanta who scored 45 goals in 4 seasons, 16 of them on my last one.

FB - Equally solid, but there is a funny aspect in some of them. I have Darmian and Di Siglio playing there but it is my 3rd full back (Murru) who steals the show. Because he his a throw in specialist he can average between 8.5 and 9.0 a game because he makes a lot of key passes, around 15-25 each game. I see a lot of times him passing the ball to my right winger via corner kick or throw in, then the winger crosses the ball to the opposition box, but a lot of times with no effect. However the match engine considers that a key pass and awards him a great exibition because he does that often, wich sometimes prevents me from knowing if he had a good game besides doing some throw ins.

HF - I have Samper there, and before him was Gil Romero. This is the weakest point in this tactic, considering average ratings. In a 50 game-season, playing in a title winning-team, the player in this position gets around 6.6 to 6.9 in most games, even when he gets the job done. I tried to change the role to ball-winning midfielder, with the same results.

MC and RP - I have a love-hate relationship with these two positions. I have Lucas Romero and Gil Romero with Locatelli as backup and they both get a good goals/assists tally per season, but they shoot A LOT!!! I changed they instructions to shoot less often, but they still shoot around 5 to 9 times in almost every match. And only 20 to 40% is on target and most times none of then goes in. Not even the PPM 'looks for a pass instead of scoring' can save this. I had some cases of a midfielder shooting 7 or 8 times in a game, with one or even none going on target. It's forgettable when you have a good win, but infuriating when you don't win a match or don't score as much goals a you should.

IF - I have Balde Keita now and El Sharawaay before him and they get the job done. They don't score as much as I imagined they would do, as the best season I've seen there was El Sharawaay with 23 goals in 47 games, and never again I got close to that. But i'm pleased with the performances on this position.

W - I still have Bonaventura here, who despite looking a average player he became a icon in Milan and one of the best italian players in the game, even outperforming Konoplyanka in this role. Whoever plays in this role is the assist king in my squad, probably benefiting a little from the corner kick drill or the throw ins mentioned above, as the ball is passed to him and then he crosses to the box. Bonaventura reached the impressive tally of 39 assists in 48 games my last season, scoring 14 goals too and got the award for Best player in Europe, above Messi and Depay.

CF - Berardi is the king here. Scores from run-ins, headers, both feet and more. 138 goals in 150 matches for me and counting. In my first season i had pazzini there and he also had a great season. In my second I had Javier Hernandez there and despite scoring 28 goals in a season he lacked the aerial prowess that could make him score even more goals.
 
alex21px said:
I used the tactic with the inside forward on the left with Milan for 5 seasons, won 4 leagues, 2 champions leagues and a lot of other trophies and here are my impressions about this tactic:

GK and CB - I'm using Scuffet on the goal, with Balanta and Chiriches/Astori at the moment, and they are solid. The center backs can score a lot of goals for me, the best example beeing Balanta who scored 45 goals in 4 seasons, 16 of them on my last one.

FB - Equally solid, but there is a funny aspect in some of them. I have Darmian and Di Siglio playing there but it is my 3rd full back (Murru) who steals the show. Because he his a throw in specialist he can average between 8.5 and 9.0 a game because he makes a lot of key passes, around 15-25 each game. I see a lot of times him passing the ball to my right winger via corner kick or throw in, then the winger crosses the ball to the opposition box, but a lot of times with no effect. However the match engine considers that a key pass and awards him a great exibition because he does that often, wich sometimes prevents me from knowing if he had a good game besides doing some throw ins.

HF - I have Samper there, and before him was Gil Romero. This is the weakest point in this tactic, considering average ratings. In a 50 game-season, playing in a title winning-team, the player in this position gets around 6.6 to 6.9 in most games, even when he gets the job done. I tried to change the role to ball-winning midfielder, with the same results.

MC and RP - I have a love-hate relationship with these two positions. I have Lucas Romero and Gil Romero with Locatelli as backup and they both get a good goals/assists tally per season, but they shoot A LOT!!! I changed they instructions to shoot less often, but they still shoot around 5 to 9 times in almost every match. And only 20 to 40% is on target and most times none of then goes in. Not even the PPM 'looks for a pass instead of scoring' can save this. I had some cases of a midfielder shooting 7 or 8 times in a game, with one or even none going on target. It's forgettable when you have a good win, but infuriating when you don't win a match or don't score as much goals a you should.

IF - I have Balde Keita now and El Sharawaay before him and they get the job done. They don't score as much as I imagined they would do, as the best season I've seen there was El Sharawaay with 23 goals in 47 games, and never again I got close to that. But i'm pleased with the performances on this position.

W - I still have Bonaventura here, who despite looking a average player he became a icon in Milan and one of the best italian players in the game, even outperforming Konoplyanka in this role. Whoever plays in this role is the assist king in my squad, probably benefiting a little from the corner kick drill or the throw ins mentioned above, as the ball is passed to him and then he crosses to the box. Bonaventura reached the impressive tally of 39 assists in 48 games my last season, scoring 14 goals too and got the award for Best player in Europe, above Messi and Depay.

CF - Berardi is the king here. Scores from run-ins, headers, both feet and more. 138 goals in 150 matches for me and counting. In my first season i had pazzini there and he also had a great season. In my second I had Javier Hernandez there and despite scoring 28 goals in a season he lacked the aerial prowess that could make him score even more goals.
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Having used this tactic for endless amounts of season i agree completely with you. The Half Back never ends up with a good rating although if you watch the game he does sit and recycle possession and break play up quite often in my opinion. I think its extremely important the two central midfielders are very physical as well as can have a good long shot. If they lack either of them then it becomes a weak point in the team. The inside forward is meant to be your star man in terms of making things happen. he always cuts inside and grabs a goal or assist or is waiting at the back post for the right winger to stick a ball in. The striker also has to be very physical but also must be able to run with the ball and find teammates. Daniel Sturridge is the perfect fit for this as is Sterling for the inside forward. The entire Liverpool team fits this formation and tactic.
 
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