AGGRESSOR !

[nasturas]

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This sucks.

 

[tzahy]

 

[Xlapatsas10]

Mate every time Tha t tff uploads a new tactic even if is bad or good u always post results like 5 -1 ..6-1...always...no offense

 

[tzahy]

Mate every time Tha t tff uploads a new tactic even if is bad or good u always post results like 5 -1 ..6-1...always...no offense

ok

 

[nasturas]

so what are you guys using? balanced or defensive? what's better?

 

[dimartino]

What OI of this tactic?And what type of players I need to use this

Don't know what's the author's recomendation, but I let the AM set the OI's. And concerning the players I think the main focus should be speed, mainly the 3 «strikers» and the wingbacks.

 

[nasturas]

OIs from OP are WBR/L weaker foot, ML/R weaker foot, AML/R weaker foot.

 

[Meffisto]

*******

Guys, I've added a new version(BALANCED) to the tactic to the OP

The new version shows the best results so I suggest starting all matches with it.

When you are losing by 2 goals or more or when you desperately need a goal at any cost then I suggest changing to the ATTACKING version. It has a better attack but a weaker defense.

I won't remove the DEFENSIVE version from the OP but there is no place for it anymore and
I suggest not using the Defensive version at all.


Also, I've added a new recommend PPM for MCL/MCR positions.




The new Balanced version it's the Attacking version with these changes:

- changed the duty/PIs of AMC position

Hey TFF,


What do you think about Gets Forward Whenever Possible PPM for Wing Back? Is it good or bad?

Thanks!

 

[Theatre of dreams]

ok

Keep posting mate!

 

[Xlapatsas10]

(H)(H)(H)(H)

 

[kibeto]

What individual training you use for CM-De in last balanced tactic?

 

[nasturas]

Guys, I have a random question. If you want to train a player a certain PPM, does the coach that you ask influence his learning of that PPM?

 

[Gammora]

*******

Guys, I've added a new version(BALANCED) to the tactic to the OP

The new version shows the best results so I suggest starting all matches with it.

When you are losing by 2 goals or more or when you desperately need a goal at any cost then I suggest changing to the ATTACKING version. It has a better attack but a weaker defense.

I won't remove the DEFENSIVE version from the OP but there is no place for it anymore and
I suggest not using the Defensive version at all.


Also, I've added a new recommend PPM for MCL/MCR positions.




The new Balanced version it's the Attacking version with these changes:

- changed the duty/PIs of AMC position

I just love the balanced version I'm using it with Bournemouth(the 1st season) and the result are amazing!

Jack Wilshere and Callum Wilson have been just unstoppable

 

[nasturas]

should I buy Denis Suarez for AMC? I can buy him for 7,5m because he's transfer listed. Already got play one twos PPM

 

[Xlapatsas10]

No one stops you posting results do they,so get on with it.

Yeah yeah mate..

 

[cescfabregas99]

Mate, if you keep using "Match Tactics" for the Match Preparation when your tactic's familiarity level is fully fluid then you just waste the Match Preparation for nothing because "Match Tactics" focus does only one thing is speed up the rate at which your tactic gains familiarity and if it's fully fluid already then it does nothing useful.

"Match Tactics" focus for the Match Preparation should be used only when your tactic's familiarity level isn't fully fluid and when it's fully fluid then you should change it immediately to something else because as I said otherwise you'll be wasting your Match Preparation.

This is not true. Match Tactics has en effect, even after its fully fluid. They will just go over the tactic once more, and train on all the different areas. It will boost the tactic like all the others options, but not in just one specific area like the others. I get its not very well explained, but its how it is. If you have the slider all to the right, then there will be no match prep at all. If you dont, then there will be an effect whatever of those 6 options you choose.

Its not a waste like you said, and match tactics has proven to do very well in testing even after its fully fluid. If you want to test it yourself, then have it all fluid before the season and go 1 season with match tactics, and another one with attacking movement. You will get similiar results, and match tactics might even win.

 

[Medmax]

This is not true. Match Tactics has en effect, even after its fully fluid. They will just go over the tactic once more, and train on all the different areas. It will boost the tactic like all the others options, but not in just one specific area like the others. I get its not very well explained, but its how it is. If you have the slider all to the right, then there will be no match prep at all. If you dont, then there will be an effect whatever of those 6 options you choose.

Its not a waste like you said, and match tactics has proven to do very well in testing even after its fully fluid. If you want to test it yourself, then have it all fluid before the season and go 1 season with match tactics, and another one with attacking movement. You will get similiar results, and match tactics might even win.

I'm sorry my friend but I tend to disagree with you. Do you actually have and official SI statement backing up your point? Because if you don't, you can express a different point of view, no problem but make sure people understand it as YOUR opinion, not as a fact...

Indeed, the match tactic is A BOOST to accelerate the tactic familiarity. Once it's full, no need to leave it on it... You can choose in which area you'd like A SLIGHT BOOST for the next game, and only this one. So as TFF states it, it shall be smarter to choose one of them (attacking, defending, set pieces...) for your next match or it will be a waste.

 

[cescfabregas99]

I'm sorry my friend but I tend to disagree with you. Do you actually have and official SI statement backing up your point? Because if you don't, you can express a different point of view, no problem but make sure people understand it as YOUR opinion, not as a fact...

Indeed, the match tactic is A BOOST to accelerate the tactic familiarity. Once it's full, no need to leave it on it... You can choose in which area you'd like A SLIGHT BOOST for the next game, and only this one. So as TFF states it, it shall be smarter to choose one of them (attacking, defending, set pieces...) for your next match or it will be a waste.

No i dont have a statement backing it up, its an opinion I and others have. We've done testing and we dont believe its there for use without an effect after its fluid, because it always win the tests for us. I think its logical to believe that they actually train Match Tactics when you have it on if its fluid or not. That means they will prepare and train the tactic before the match. I think its the perfect balanced preparation, and I dont trust it to not have an effect. Also for some weird reason the tactics drops from like 100% to 98% fluid in the middle of the season, but if you have it on match tactics all the time that wont happen.

 

[chris_rigg]

contrary to what you might believe, Football Manager is a game! not real life. that is like saying i have completed a game, but the computer has told me to do it again so i can do it quicker! It is not real life! once your game sees your tactic is 100% fluid, that means 100% fluid. no such thing as giving extra than 100% in a computer game.

I'm with you 100% TFF on this one.

 

[Medmax]

No i dont have a statement backing it up, its an opinion I and others have. We've done testing and we dont believe its there for use without an effect after its fluid, because it always win the tests for us. I think its logical to believe that they actually train Match Tactics when you have it on if its fluid or not. That means they will prepare and train the tactic before the match. I think its the perfect balanced preparation, and I dont trust it to not have an effect. Also for some weird reason the tactics drops from like 100% to 98% fluid in the middle of the season, but if you have it on match tactics all the time that wont happen.

I don't think people realize the number of different factors which can affect the results of a tactic test... Yes, it can highlight a "trend", like the domination of the 3 central defenders formation in this FM 17, or the 442 with wingers and full backs crossing in FM 16... But that's all. You can re-do a test 10 times with (more or less) different outcome.

About the tactic familiarity NEVER dropping in the middle of the season when you set the match tactic, of course it will never drop because you stay on it, this is logical. The problem is why staying on it WHEN YOUR TACTIC IS FULLY FLUID then? (And actually, 98% is insignificant at this stage)

If you leave a car battery on the charger in your garage, do you unplug it once it's full or would you leave it plugged on the powerpoint for months and keep paying the electricity? Of course, your battery will NEVER drop (by the way, it will overcook and die in this case ), exactly like your tactic but it would be a waste of money on electricity...

Once your tactic familiarity is full, there's absolutely no need to leave it on, it is a misconception in the community. You can either choose to:

- set a match preference for you next game and benefit from its boost (are you an underdog for this SPECIAL game? Do they have weaknesses somewhere? Have you checked how many goals do they score or concead on set pieces? Corners? Which kind of defenders do they play with (slow? high/low jumping reach? marking? bravery? decisions? anticipation?...) you get my point)

- or not set any match preference (the slider FULLY on the right) and focus ALL your training on your players' individual training, focus, and PPM learning.

You don't have to take my words for it, it's all good. Just raise this issue on the stupid questions thread on the SI forum and you may eventually change your mind if it's solely based on tactics testing