Barcelona V Real Madrid: 7.45 ITV 1

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Who will win 2nd leg?

  • Barcelona

    Votes: 8 42.1%

  • Draw

    Votes: 5 26.3%

  • Real Madrid

    Votes: 6 31.6%
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Athe~ said:
Slightly off-topic, but did you know Dundee United played Barça 4 times in European competition, beating them in all four occasions? Was looking for a few of Messi's stats and that came up. Surprising.
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I once saw Dundee play Barca in a friendly they got smashed like 5 or 6-1 with Messi scoring a hatrick!
 
I'm slightly tempted to end this thread on 275 posts so it doesn't overtake my auction game as my most commented on thread.
 
Redrup said:
They managed it vs Arsenal in the FA Cup Quarter final this year, with the result being 2-0. Barcelona are indeed better, but they could still do it.

Lame, just looked above and saw Joel put the same.
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Joel` said:
We can, will and have done. FA cup against Arsenal - We rarely had the ball and just hit them on the counter. We have so many different styles, we're happy playing in pretty much anyway Fergie asks.
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Yer ok you hit Arsenal on the counter but there are 2 problems with that if that is the way you decide to play.

1. Barca's defence is better than Arsenals so it will be harder to break down.
2. Arsenal had alot of chances that day and a better side (Barcelona) will take them.
 
RONALDO IN 'GOES MISSING IN BIG GAME SHOCKER!!!'

Messi >>>>> Ronaldo.

/Discussion.
DMF said:
Ronaldo was the only player on the pitch not to roll around holding his limbs like they'd just been blown off by the taliban.
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You say that, but I distinctly remember just after Pepe was sent off, Ronaldo was tackled around 35 yards out from goal and he went down as if he'd been shot; and yes, he did roll around on the floor 'in agony'.
 
CJACKO11 said:
Yer ok you hit Arsenal on the counter but there are 2 problems with that if that is the way you decide to play.

1. Barca's defence is better than Arsenals so it will be harder to break down.
2. Arsenal had alot of chances that day and a better side (Barcelona) will take them.
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1. Debatable but just about. Lacks depth though, injuries could become an issue.
2. United also had a much weakened team, with Fabio and Raphael playing on the wings, and O'shea and Gibson in the centre of midfield

I don't know why you are so anti-United. Fletcher can do the job that Pepe did tonight, should SAF ask him to. We are much more disciplined and versatile than Real Madrid, I am no longer scared of Barca. Sure, they are a great team, but Real have shown that they aren't invincible this season, and we are probably better and more defensive than any of the big teams that were in the competition. I'm sure it will be a tense and boring (for the neutrals) game, but I cannot wait for it.
 
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Can RM appeal the red card/suspension of Pepe? Clearly not a sending-off at all..

Missed the 2nd half (saw ITV highlights) but two magnificent goals by Messi gave Barcelona a deserved (just about - having 80% possession and doing nothing with it doesn't give you a divine right to win a game) win on the night. Barca's plan B coming through again.. If at first passing around with no end product doesn't succeed.. Uh... Give it to Messi and watch on.

You have to say that had Pepe been on the pitch, though - the likelihood of Messi scoring that 2nd goal would have been significantly less likely. Not just because it means they have 11 men, rather than 10 but because Pepe had him in his pocket until he was harshly sent off. His no-nonsense approach to man-marking Messi and going in hard whenever he got the ball limited his impact almost entirely.

Getting really sick of Barca (and Real to an extent: Di Maria and Marcelo, particularly) and their ugly antics on the pitch. Both Pedro and Busquets (again - third time in 2 years) fell down holding their faces after minimal contact. The challenge by Arbelona on Pedro wasn't even anywhere near being malicious or anywhere near his face.

@CJACKO - Better defence, same problems. V vulnerable to counter-attacking (especially with Nani getting in behind Dani Alves), inability to defend set-pieces properly (Vidic, Smalling, Ferdinand all brilliant in the air) and lack of adequate cover. If Puyol or Pique are injured, they're pretty screwed. Abidal was superb against Arsenal but may not be able to do that again and Milito is really poor.

They also have a better forward-line, but again - same problems. They don't take a lot of chances - against us, against Madrid several times over - and Utd won't give them as many chances with a better side and not a make-shift Cup side. and they overcomplicate it a lot of the time as well.

The main difference between Arsenal and Barca is that they have Messi tbh. Obviously they're generally a better side but Messi can change a game in an instant - on his own, he's effectively Barca's Plan B: Knock it around for a while and hope for an opening.. If that fails, give it to Messi and watch him go.
 
fuelledbypassion said:
1. Debateable but just about. Lacks depth though, injuries could become an issue.
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Barças defense is much, much better than Arsenal. They are also more disciplined, even though Piqué wasn't really good tonight, they usually coordinate their defensive movement quite well.
 
Alex said:
RONALDO IN 'GOES MISSING IN BIG GAME SHOCKER!!!'

Messi >>>>> Ronaldo.

/Discussion.




You say that, but I distinctly remember just after Pepe was sent off, Ronaldo was tackled around 35 yards out from goal and he went down as if he'd been shot; and yes, he did roll around on the floor 'in agony'.
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"MESSI DOES NOTHING FOR 70 MINUTES SHOCKER"

Thought Ronaldo as actually decent from what I saw tonight. Chased the ball well and had a couple of good efforts from range.. In a game where his team parked the bus and didn't offer him much service he did what he could.

What were you saying after the CdR final? When Ronaldo won it for RM and Messi didn't really do anything? Probably what most of the media were saying/doing - going gaga over Messi running past a couple of players and then getting knocked the **** out by Pepe and ignoring Ronaldo's goal.

Messi > Ronaldo - not by as much as you're suggesting IMHO.
 
I presume the straight red can be appealled, but the damage has already been done. Real can't possibly pull back a two goal deficit without Real opening them up again.
 
fuelledbypassion said:
I presume the straight red can be appealled, but the damage has already been done. Real can't possibly pull back a two goal deficit without Real opening them up again.
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Barca, you mean? ;)

They can ****** well try and it will be far easier with Pepe in the side - man marking Messi.

Mourinho knows how to attack, he just prefers not to in games like this!

RM can do it.. They'll need an early goal, though. TBH, they can do it solely on set-pieces if their defensive game is good enough and they get a bit of luck.

They should be able to appeal it. No way a red card..
 
Athe~ said:
Barças defense is much, much better than Arsenal. They are also more disciplined, even though Piqué wasn't really good tonight, they usually coordinate their defensive movement quite well.
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Yes, Pique is quality, and Busquets does his job very well. Dani Alves isn't great at defending though, and I don't rate Valdes that highly either. At full strength they are better, but if it is anywhere near today's line up for the final then I would be very pleased. I can't see a left back at Barcelona that will be able to cope with Valencia's pace.

If Arsenal had Vermaelen available for the majority of the season then they might well still be challenging for the league. I honestly think their defence is underrated
 
Joss said:
Barca, you mean? ;)
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Yeah, it's late. Give me a break! I would love an early goal, it would make for a far more interesting match. When they tried to attack last time at the Nou Camp, they were destroyed
 
Love the Barca hatred in this thread.
Also love the fact that nobody mentions that Madrid were just as bad as Barcelona? I guess jealously plays a part there.

"Trouble ahead? RT @barcastuff: Ronaldo: Do I like to play in a defensive team like Madrid? No, but I have to adapt to what the coach wants" not good. Bye Bye Mourihno?
 
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