I just think debating manager records is beside the point at this time, Capello had one, Hodgson, in comparison, does not.
The only reasonable thing to do would be keeping Pearce as temporary manager , at least he is sort of in the loop, and has more personal experience at top level national football than any of the current players.
Lastly, nope. A lot of people seem to think "passion" is a factor. Specifically whether "native" manager being naturallly passionate towards his country can have impact on team performance. X or Y or Z will have a passion towards our team and it will somehow carry us. Nope. This sort of stuff can maybe carry high schoolers at best. Otherwise if you don't have passion for sport you don't make it to top level regardless of where you're from.
Irrelevant and untrue. Not only does top level national experience count for practically nothing in a manager nowadays, Pearce has fewer caps than Ashley Cole, to name but one.
Reminded me of that Sacchi quip when his record as a player was questioned - "I didn't realise you had to be a horse before becoming a jockey".
Old article, but a good one on our press and their relationship with the England manager: When Saturday Comes - The Half Decent Football Magazine - Reckless Eriksson
Don't blame any manager (club or country) who lays down the law and tells the press where to go. Actively encourage it when it's deserved too. Might be something which some may not have really noticed before, but it's been going on for a long time. There's two ways to play it - get friendly and have a love-in or tell them where to go. Hodgson should be worried that even his 'friends' (like Henry Winter) are already sharpening their knives. Contrary to the belief in some quarters, he's actually exceptionally prickly and snide when he's in the spotlight and not getting softball questions.
And no since Roy was announced, no one has talked about passion.
There has been no debate about passion or Capello, just Hodgson vs Redknapp.
Where has Winter been sharpening his knives? Shown nothing but support for Hodgson so far.
As for your point about him prickly and snide, isn't that a common theme amongst managers when things aren't going there way? Only really occurred during Roy's time at Liverpool as well.
Hodgson is a better choice than Pearce.
You are confusing one debate with another
Actually, he does. In the international arena, Hodgson's is actually better than Capello's, I'd argue. Taking the Swiss to third in the world is no mean feat indeed.
Irrelevant and untrue. Not only does top level national experience count for practically nothing in a manager nowadays, Pearce has fewer caps than Ashley Cole, to name but one.
Reminded me of that Sacchi quip when his record as a player was questioned - "I didn't realise you had to be a horse before becoming a jockey".
Third in FIFA rating. If place if FIFA rating meant anything at all, we wouldnt even need tournaments like Euro and WC. He did good with them, yes. Did he had 3rd team of the world? No.
It does'nt count in club football. High level tournaments occur so rarely you cant really reason whether it does count or not. In this very specific situation, with very little time left, i think its beneficial to have former player as manager. You can bring a guy who is brilliant tactician, organiser and talent spotter, and its not gonna matter because he has no time to apply any of this knowledge. Also, i'm not about caps, Pearce had been on the pitch when best tournament results happened, he has tournament experience.
Yeah, he also didnt even make it out of group stage with Italy at Euro 96.
That's personal opinion vs fact.
If you want, we can look at another measure, his win/loss record. 21 won, 10 drawn, 10 lost. That's a pretty remarkable record.
Tournament experience as a player =/= tournament experience as a manager.
You're criticising Arrigo Sacchi. Cute.
Alright, you know someone else who didn't have top-level national experience as a player and managed in a World Cup? Marcello Lippi. Oh, and Luiz Felipe Scolari.
Well, nope. FIFA rating doesn't matter to anyone. Fact. Next time you see 100.000 people celebrating on the street because their national team is high in FIFA rating, let me know though.
Tournament experience is tournament experience. Players are not zombies, they observe and analyse the things happening around, what goes wrong and what goes right. Again, tournament is not club league competitions where you have time to correct things, any kind of experience is important and vital.
His record with national team is less then stellar, so , yeah
Oh, and they both worked for couple years on their teams. Not barely a month.
Right, so as we have said it's not a perfect situation. But my point remains that Stuart Pearce is a pretty poor manager at the moment, and I'd far, FAR rather have Hodgson's nous and enviable international record than someone who thinks that playing Michael Mancienne in midfield is super epic awesome tactics.
Yeah, he also didnt even make it out of group stage with Italy at Euro 96.
Well, yes it is fact. No matter how worthless you think the FIFA rating is, it's still a fact that the Swiss were third in the rankings under Hodgson. Your opinion that they're worthless is just that; an opinion. Whereas I'm basing my argument on facts and figures, albeit perhaps flawed ones.
A player's experience is totally different to a manager's. I'll admit there's a certain amount of experience to be gained that benefits both a player and a manager in similar ways, but it is very, very limited. A player's job is primarily geared towards playing, whereas the manager gains experience in, well, managerial ability. Not playing. They're two completely different things.
The fact that you're criticising one of the greatest managers in the history of the game rather speaks volumes. Moreover, you pretty obviously don't know what you're talking about. Sacchi took Italy to a World Cup Final, and was one Divine Ponytail shoddy penalty away from winning it. He could hardly be blamed for the Euro 92 failure to qualify, seeing as he came in towards the end of the qualification process, and indeed the Euro 96 group stage exit was pretty much the only blot on his record as Italy manager.
Right, so as we have said it's not a perfect situation. But my point remains that Stuart Pearce is a pretty poor manager at the moment, and I'd far, FAR rather have Hodgson's nous and enviable international record than someone who thinks that playing Michael Mancienne in midfield is super epic awesome tactics.
I'm assuming that means Chelsea.. Not many other clubs are going to be willing to match his £6,000,000 wages.
Dont work in England Capello, you may have made mistakes, but there is something distinct nasty about our press when comes foreign and "different" people, or indeed anyone they dont like.
Still a top class manager.