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Can't defend XD Ronaldinho in Rafa's pocket,and Bale,Ribery...
Can't defend XD Ronaldinho in Rafa's pocket,and Bale,Ribery...Well, I don't rate the Da Silva's too much if I'm honest, which is why I laughed, must admit they're good going forward but much like Bosingwa they can't defend! But as I said I earlier I didn't mention them because they're pretty much first team players now especially with Neville being past it and Brown injured (at least I think he's still injured).
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I have always loved VDV too, ever since he was at Ajax, then he goes Spurs :'(
They've only done that through forced injuries, they've had no other option then to play them and none of them have excelled.
Can't defend XD Ronaldinho in Rafa's pocket,and Bale,Ribery...
Well, I don't rate the Da Silva's too much if I'm honest, which is why I laughed, must admit they're good going forward but much like Bosingwa they can't defend! But as I said I earlier I didn't mention them because they're pretty much first team players now especially with Neville being past it and Brown injured (at least I think he's still injured).
They've only done that through forced injuries, they've had no other option then to play them and none of them have excelled.
Rafael is a decent defender actually, but his strong point is his attacking game and brown isn't injured he's just lost it :S
But shouldn't a DEFENDER'S strong point be defending?
Lost it? He never had it! But I'm sure he was definitely sidelined earlier on this season for quite a while if I remember rightly.
hes actually good defensively better going forwards, like all attacking fullbacks. Anyway quit shifting the goal posts.But shouldn't a DEFENDER'S strong point be defending?
Lost it? He never had it! But I'm sure he was definitely sidelined earlier on this season for quite a while if I remember rightly.
Two words, Dani Alves. Oh and another one for you, Maicon.But shouldn't a DEFENDER'S strong point be defending?
Lost it? He never had it! But I'm sure he was definitely sidelined earlier on this season for quite a while if I remember rightly.
But shouldn't a DEFENDER'S strong point be defending?
People keep saying, "Roman wants us to be self-sufficient", but how? You can't just stop funding and hope your club will become self-sufficient, you have to put money into scouting networks, youth facilities, buy youngsters (Ok they've been doing that recently but to be honest, it may turn out to be too little too late) etc.
Chelsea's youngster are nowhere near the quality of Man United youngsters (and trust me, I hate Chelsea and Man Utd equally). Man Utd atleast give their youngsters first team experience, Welbeck, Macheda and Simpson are all out on loan, Gibson was on loan too (although I think Gibson is ****). Those players have all had first team experience in the Man Utd side too.
Dani Alves is a defender - Strong point, attacking, he's still one of the best full-back's in the world. Same with Ashley Cole, Patrice Evra, Phillip Lahm, Gael Clichy and Marcelo. Attacking full-back's are what the game is all about these days, they offer more to the team than a defensive one.
It doesn't matter, its not Man Utd fault you only started careing about your youth this season. Regardless of age (to a certain obvious degree), Man Utds youngster are better than yours.As i said earlier, Utds youngsters are either a year or two older and have been in Utd's first team set-up for a season or two already. These lads have only really been indroduced to the first team this season and are averagly a little younger. So you are telling me that a 17 year old McEachran is nowhere near as good as Gibson was when he was 17??? Or a 19 year old Bruma is nowhere as good as a 19 year old Smalling??
Dani Alves and Maicon. The two best right backs in world football. Not renowned for their defending though are they. It's their attacking play that makes them the full backs they are today.
As i said earlier, Utds youngsters are either a year or two older and have been in Utd's first team set-up for a season or two already. These lads have only really been indroduced to the first team this season and are averagly a little younger. So you are telling me that a 17 year old McEachran is nowhere near as good as Gibson was when he was 17??? Or a 19 year old Bruma is nowhere as good as a 19 year old Smalling??
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It doesn't matter, its not Man Utd fault you only started careing about your youth this season. Regardless of age (to a certain obvious degree), Man Utds youngster are better than yours.
No-one is arguing them points though, the Fact remains, ChrisBird said. Chelsea youngster are significantly better then United... Which is incorrect, Just because chelsea have no good youngsters between 19-21 doesnt mean United shouldn't count.
I think its a little harsh especially on Cole and Evra, both can defend excellently i mean for Cole just ask Cristiano Ronaldo he will tell you. I quote " the toughest opponent i have ever faced".
Ok. It doesn't change the fact that right now, your team which needs good quality youth, doesn't have it.I never said they wearn't but you expext that when they have been in and around the first team for a year or two already as Chelsea's youngsters have only been in properly in the first team this season.
I never said they wearn't but you expext that when they have been in and around the first team for a year or two already as Chelsea's youngsters have only been in properly in the first team this season.
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I mean im trying to play devils advocat here, if he means youngsters i.e 16-19 then yer i believe ours are possibly better but i would still count upto 21-22 as youngsters were you will have Cleverly, Smalling and Obertan etc etc.
And just because I'm moaning that a defender, should be best at defending, not attacking it's not because I don't like wing backs, because I prefer playing wing backs, makes for much better football. But it's a fact that a defender should be better at defending than attacking end of, you could throw all the names of attacking full backs you want at me, it won't change my opinion.