Tactics & Training: The " I have a small question " thread

If im playing a fluid attacking 4-2-4

Is it wrong if i had my two cm's on advanced playmaker support and ball winning midfielder defend
then i had the 2 wingers and 2 strikers on attacking duty.
Would this kind of break the flow?
would i have to have my cms as attack and defend and then make one of my strikers on support? or can i leave it as it is?
 
Jimmy_x_ said:
If im playing a fluid attacking 4-2-4

Is it wrong if i had my two cm's on advanced playmaker support and ball winning midfielder defend
then i had the 2 wingers and 2 strikers on attacking duty.
Would this kind of break the flow?
would i have to have my cms as attack and defend and then make one of my strikers on support? or can i leave it as it is?
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Apart form the approach actually having to suit your squad, here is my favourite setting assuming you are using the TC and have not tweaked any of the team settings and that you are playing with a top team, expecting to face opponent sitting deep and playing cautious against you ( i.e managing man u ).

Ballwinner - Placed higher up in the field by mentality
- As you are playing with a high d-line with a high press its important that the opponents midfielders are not given too much on the ball, being able to hit ball over the top of your defenders but insetad being closed to quicker by your ballwinner

Playmaker - Deep dropping
- As you are playing with many advanced players, its crucial that you also have one player to dictate the tempo and provide cunning t-balls from deep as well. When the opponent sits deep and are in a good defensive position, its good to have someone that can open up the defence using his creativity, especially when your players have made their runs from deep, now standing still

Forwards
- I would use one more deep dropping to drag the defenders out of position, especially if having someone that actually likes to come deep and get the ball.
 
Cheers. What i have deduced from that is advanced playmaker on support and having rooney on deep lying forward support :)

Another question....

Should i tick my playmaker or not?
I like the idea of a hidden play maker...when the ball gets to him he is unmarked and can create, however i understand this means he can get lost within the game.

I also understand that if it is ticked he is more involved in the game and is more of a focal point for the attack to begin, however he can be marked out of the game at the same time.

Not sure which way i want to go....
 
Jimmy_x_ said:
Cheers. What i have deduced from that is advanced playmaker on support and having rooney on deep lying forward support :)

Another question....

Should i tick my playmaker or not?
I like the idea of a hidden play maker...when the ball gets to him he is unmarked and can create, however i understand this means he can get lost within the game.

I also understand that if it is ticked he is more involved in the game and is more of a focal point for the attack to begin, however he can be marked out of the game at the same time.

Not sure which way i want to go....
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At this level, I never use a playmaker( i untick the box and chose none) as it makes the flow of the game too one dimensional and as you say, if he is having a bad day...Its also down to that he is often manmarked or closed down by the AI when they use their OIs.

When playing with a lesser squad though and my playmaker is far superior to his teammates, then I use him as one
 
Cheers, this was the same understanding i had:) Unticking it

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Right its finished, do you mind having a look at it, if you have time maybe play 1 or 2 matches. thanks if you can do this :)
Download tactic here
 
Jimmy_x_ said:
Cheers, this was the same understanding i had:) Unticking it

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Right its finished, do you mind having a look at it, if you have time maybe play 1 or 2 matches. thanks if you can do this :)
Download tactic here
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Will do
 
what roles to give to your player in a 4-2-2-2? (dm-dm-amc-amc-st-st) I have Hazard and Pastore as my best amc and Necid and Hernandez as strikers. Currently playing with attacking wingbacks to give crosses to Necid.
 
rammie19 said:
what roles to give to your player in a 4-2-2-2? (dm-dm-amc-amc-st-st) I have Hazard and Pastore as my best amc and Necid and Hernandez as strikers. Currently playing with attacking wingbacks to give crosses to Necid.
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Firstly, I would look at the players and their ppms. Do you have any attacking player that likes to come deep to get the ball, any DMC that likes to move forward etc. After that, I would set up the roles so that we have one DMC holding the ground when attacking and actually close down rather high up in the pitch so that the opposition don't get too much space in the center of the park where we lack players. After that, I would look at the other DMC and make sure that he supports the AMC and this player is probably the most vital part in the transition phase. In the AM-Strata, i would again play the players so that they can do the most damage. In my save Pastore and hazard does not have any ppms that can be conflicting with any wide play or positioning so you wont have any problem there. Just make sure that they both open up space for each other and move into it when its created. Their roles and wide play would depend on your approach as i would play them rather different if i was playing defensive versus Attacking

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robing9g said:
i have found no way to make my amc to score in a 4231 deep
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whats your approach ?
 
The better half, in a 4-2-4 how would you set up your full backs?
usually i would set them on support but i feel this is taking away the overall attacking threat of the tactic. Should i change this to automatic ( which due to my starting strategy being attacking they would attack the flanks) or leave this on support? Its just i feel due to the wingers being pushed higher up there is space in between them and the full backs when i have them on support.

What is your view on this?
 
The slower tempo, the more likely your team is to pass round the ball and look for openings, whereas faster tempo indicates your team is likely to shoot it up the field into open space, right? So using this, how does a medium tempo work? While wanting to keep the players creative, I don't want them to be shooting the ball across the pitch and lose possession to a throw in or a opposition player getting the ball.

Is the alternative, to while keeping fast tempo, to make sure the players have little creative freedom, don't cross and have the slider of passing to a minimal?
 
For inside forwards what is best to set for long shots? rarely somtimes or often.
Yes i do have good players here but i dont want them wasting chances
 
What role should I give for Robbie Keane? Right now he's set deep laying forward but it isn't working good. Thanks.
 
Jimmy_x_ said:
For inside forwards what is best to set for long shots? rarely somtimes or often.
Yes i do have good players here but i dont want them wasting chances
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Well iv always set them to rarely and through balls often. However i started a save with madrid and ronaldo has amazing long shots, so i set him to sometimes and he scores long shots all the time, but he does have 10 to 20 shots a game. But if you have a player with a good long shot stat then sometimes, otherwise rarely. Personal preferance.

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ferran said:
What role should I give for Robbie Keane? Right now he's set deep laying forward but it isn't working good. Thanks.
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What formation are you playing 4-4-2 ?
 
Shaneckham said:
Well iv always set them to rarely and through balls often. However i started a save with madrid and ronaldo has amazing long shots, so i set him to sometimes and he scores long shots all the time, but he does have 10 to 20 shots a game. But if you have a player with a good long shot stat then sometimes, otherwise rarely. Personal preferance.

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What formation are you playing 4-4-2 ?
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I'm playing 4-2-4 with 2 support central midfieldders and two support wingers, two strikers up front.
 
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What does tight marking actually do?

I think that if player doesn't have tight marking, he covers other players, with tight marking tries to mark nearby opposition player. Does it work like that?
 
If you use man marking, he will stick to his man like glue, the strength of the glue dependant on your players skill. Tight marking on zonal will cause confusion, especially if two players cross your one defender, and is a defensive frailty.

I'd save this for marking a player out of the game, and give the role to a DM rather than a CB.
 
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