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He's kosher. Posts on several forums, including RAWK. You'll see this repeated all over the place soon.
the one i've been on most recently is TIA; whats your opinion on that one?
umm i'll check out RAWK then,
and what will be repeated all over the place?
If you're getting involved, find the community which is best fit for you mate. TIA isn't my favourite place I have to confess, primarily because it tolerates dicks pretending to know **** and have the whole forum following them - place where the 15th August rumour started. And don't even begin on Showmethemoney and his fecking ****. Actually registered a few weeks to give a piece of mind but still not been approved. >_> Probably for the best. But for some people it's great.
There's a good piece listing the main supporter sites and giving the break down. Rawk was ludicrously pro-Rafa and is renowned for the extreme swings in mood. Full of very, very, very good reds though. Lots of numpties, but there's a lot of gold there if you sift through the dross.
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The CIC/Franklin Investment joint venture will be repeated everywhere.
I'm cursing myself. Discarded Franklin after doing the brief research because of the Sovereign wealth fund and discarded Guang as a result too. Idiot that I am, it didn't register that two funds were being referenced by various 'sources'. Oh well, I'm getting old. Next thing to find out, after match, is total capitilisation of this new fund backed by the big ones.
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Right, i'll stay away from TIA, i'm just on RAWK looking at the takeover latest - chat & speculation thread, so i'll sieve through that,
is your source that reliable that you think that this news about Franklin & Guang will be all over the place? I'm guessing if it is true then it's a good thing?
Right, i'll stay away from TIA, i'm just on RAWK looking at the takeover latest - chat & speculation thread, so i'll sieve through that,
is your source that reliable that you think that this news about Franklin & Guang will be all over the place? I'm guessing if it is true then it's a good thing?
lol nah, it's whatever forum suits you. TIA isn't for me. RAWK isn't for others. etc etc.
And Bamba usually posts a few hours before it hits the press. And as far as I know, he's never been wrong when posting claiming to know something.
anyone see the piece on this on skynews, they were asking random people what they though of the possibility of a company like this buying liverpool and some geezer went i who are they i have never heard of them. on another note is it this geezers actualy money??
Just read all of Zebedee's posts mate, that'll explain it.
edit: unless it's just a reconfirmation of his interest >_> sorry, might be jumping the gun.
Bah got excited. Expecting a press release from him at some point soon.
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Al Kharifi's still in is something I wasn't expecting. That's been rubbished before, but it keeps popping back up. If they are bidding they've been very, very, very quiet. Worryingly so.
Rhone Capital would be a disaster. They'd finish off the job.
Syrian guy not mentioned, which is a result. That means Gillett and Hicks' candidate isn't being rated by BarCap, Broughton and RBS.
Links to HSG a concern. Can you see Campaign Forum on RAWK retrodude? If you can, check out the thread started by royhendo on how Hicks/Gillett have structured companies. Before bid story broke, that's what I was working on.
Rhone Capital would be a disaster. They'd finish off the job.
Syrian guy not mentioned, which is a result. That means Gillett and Hicks' candidate isn't being rated by BarCap, Broughton and RBS.
Links to HSG a concern. Can you see Campaign Forum on RAWK retrodude? If you can, check out the thread started by royhendo on how Hicks/Gillett have structured companies. Before bid story broke, that's what I was working on.
Why are the links to HSG a concern Zeb? i thinking i'm sticking around on RAWK as their ITK really does seem to be itk...
erm, i'll have a look for that thread mate; but whats it about?
Why are the links to HSG a concern Zeb? i thinking i'm sticking around on RAWK as their ITK really does seem to be itk...
erm, i'll have a look for that thread mate; but whats it about?
Oh, for team info, djphil (I think that's his name) is kosher. We're getting them far earlier now too - Rafa never used to let anyone know until hour before game, but Mr.Hodgson seems to be telling them a fair time before
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Erm, HSG is a long story. Very tired tonight. We've been holding back on it because there's no evidence. Just supposition and rumour. Going to draw a picture - might make it easier to understand
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Ok, that's a really, really simplified view of how Hicks' runs his companies. The fat ******* himself isn't shown - he's further to the left and a bit further down than my screenshot will show.
Find the Liverpool furtherest to the right hand side. That's the 'club' - and there's all those companies which go back up. But once you get to Kop Delaware [edit: it's there by it's proper name - Kop Investments LLC], we're not certain what happens (there's no way of finding out without a court order in the United States) but it might be we're linked to HSG (Hicks used to say that, but stopped when HSG started to run into financial problems in a massive way).
Right, top of the screen furthest to the right is a company called Texas Rangers Baseball Partners. That has just gone bankrupt and been sold. The problem is that when it was sold, the money raised wasn't enough to pay off all the debts for the company which took out the loans - HSG. So the judge there has told those still owed money to go get it from HSG and whatever HSG owns.
And if we're linked to HSG in the way which Hicks used to say... then that means those owed money by HSG may come along and demand to own his 50% share of the club...
Now that may not be the case. But the fact that it's now been raised in the Times as an issue to ask Broughton is something which is really, really, really worrying. And it would explain Huang's deadline. It's unlikely those owed money by HSG will chase after it until an ice hockey team owned by HSG is sold [edit: that's the Dallas Stars]. And that can't be sold until the middle of this month. Which is the deadline for Huang's bid.
Could be worry over nothing. But it's something to watch out for.
Gillett 2 years ago took out a very dodgy loan (it's what I'm talking about in the last part of that thread - you'll know who I am on RAWK now heh ;p) and used his 50% share in Liverpool as collateral for that loan. The people who gave him the loan then said they were going to sell his debt to someone else, but after that we don't know what happened. So it might be that Gillett too may have problems selling his 50% of the club.
Sorry if any of that doesn't make sense. If you want me to explain anything, just say - very tired so might not be making sense.
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Uh oh, I'm starting to really NOT feel good at all now. I read that Rangers thing about an hour ago, and the first thing that came to my mind when I saw the court ruling was "Liverpool". If they can claim Gillette's share of the club, then I think we can kiss our takeover plans goodbye, or at least seriously compromised. Even if we are sold before the Dallas Stars, wouldn't the deal still be void if they can lay claim to his share. I mean, technically, the verdict was reached before we're sold. Wouldn't that nullify all the dealings from Gillette's side?
thanks for trying to explain that to me zeb, but yeah, you're right, it doesn't make sense; but i'm tired too...
i understand certain parts of it but not all of it;
anyway, i think ima just go live in a cellar or somewhere where i get no internet, radio or telly for a week, then comeback and see whats happened...
i understand certain parts of it but not all of it;
anyway, i think ima just go live in a cellar or somewhere where i get no internet, radio or telly for a week, then comeback and see whats happened...
It's Hicks with the Rangers and Stars
It shouldn't mean that Liverpool can't be sold. But if it's true that we are linked to HSG (and we may not be linked at all) then if the club is sold, Hicks gets his money and he goes and pays the people he owes money to with that. Just like is happening with the Dallas Stars. But if Liverpool are connected to HSG, getting sold after the Stars would be very, very, very bad mojo because the people who will be left owed money by then will be the very worst of lenders - loansharks to corporations who will just want to make a quick bit of profit.
But this may not be how things are set up. It may be nothing at all to worry about. Just something to keep an eye on and part of the reason why getting sold quickly is a good thing, providing the person buying us isn't worse than Hicks and Gillett.
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thanks for trying to explain that to me zeb, but yeah, you're right, it doesn't make sense; but i'm tired too...
i understand certain parts of it but not all of it;
anyway, i think ima just go live in a cellar or somewhere where i get no internet, radio or telly for a week, then comeback and see whats happened...
If Penelope Cruz is in the cellar next door, I'll move in and be your neighbour
PM me or whatever (open to anyone) if you want stuff explaining. Will do my best, and I'll tell you if I haven't got a clue either
Wow, that must be hard for a manc, saying he hopes his clubs biggest rivals are bought, and become filthy rich!
no but in all seriousness, i can see where your coming from; i think, i think i'd be the same if it was United that this was happening, hopefully their time will come (yn) and i mean that, it'd be a shame to see us get one up on our biggest rivals cos they went down the ******* thanks to some ****** owners....
honestly though, i occasionally hate being a Liverpool fan (A) we always make hard work of things; hopefully this can be like Istanbul all over again (an appropriate use of a metaphor i think?) shocking first half and then a brilliant second half to make us go mental!
ie. the second half is a takeover deal being completed lol. i cant speak for every manc, but this is a twofold issue for me. one's about not losing a great that both heavily dislike and greatly respect because of a pair of shysters, and two its about the wider impact of poor ownership of our clubs, we've seen if far too often in recent times. and sooner, rather than later one of the real big ones is gonna get nailed to the wall. portsmouth almost went to the wall today. if this fails for you lot you will most likely be in administration next year. I'm sick and tired of the way the leading bodies go on about the money the premier league makes, while rome burns, with football league clubs going into adminstration left right and centre, our national side a shambles, our youth coaching still in the 1980's. does my nut inWow, that must be hard for a manc, saying he hopes his clubs biggest rivals are bought, and become filthy rich!
no but in all seriousness, i can see where your coming from; i think, i think i'd be the same if it was United that this was happening, hopefully their time will come (yn) and i mean that, it'd be a shame to see us get one up on our biggest rivals cos they went down the ******* thanks to some ****** owners....
honestly though, i occasionally hate being a Liverpool fan (A) we always make hard work of things; hopefully this can be like Istanbul all over again (an appropriate use of a metaphor i think?) shocking first half and then a brilliant second half to make us go mental!
got to say im 24 and im already feeling jaded with the Game. or maybe im just tired an cranky
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