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Also worth noting, 3 players in the first squad are the result of the oh so dreadful loan system. If you got what it takes, you will make it at Chelsea, you are not doomed to be shipped out.

The exceptions don't prove the rule. It's a farm system to make money, as opposed to creating first team players.
 
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In what world would you sell Ake and loan Chalobah and RLC, only to then chase after Drinkwater?
 
In what world would you sell Ake and loan Chalobah and RLC, only to then chase after Drinkwater?

The world in which Chalobah, Ake and RLC don't want to sit on the bench and want to play regularly whereas Drinkwater is happy to sit on the bench. RLC is loaned. Chalobah and Ake both have buy-back clauses.
 
Show them at least some pathway to the first team by giving them minutes and involving them and there is no need for them to want away.

Chelsea's attitude to youth development is mad. Put the time in bringing in and developing good youngsters. Only to never give them a chance at first-team level and just look to flip them for profit.
 
Show them at least some pathway to the first team by giving them minutes and involving them and there is no need for them to want away.

Chelsea's attitude to youth development is mad. Put the time in bringing in and developing good youngsters. Only to never give them a chance at first-team level and just look to flip them for profit.

There is a pathway. Christensen starting against Tottenham is an emphatic answer to that. Ake, Chalobah and RLC not at the required level to be starting yet so at the most, they are options off the bench. Only regular game time will help them improve which is something they want and we cannot offer.

Ake and Chalobah both have buy-back clauses. RLC is on loan. All 3 will definitely be back if they reach the required level.
 
Chalobah, RLC and Ake all took the cue from Lukaku and realized that the only way to improve significantly and stake a claim to a first team spot at Chelsea is by leaving and playing regularly instead of rotting on the bench. Thankfully this time we inserted buy-back clauses. I am quietly confident that RLC and Chalobah will both be full-fledged England internationals by the end of the season.
 
The exceptions don't prove the rule. It's a farm system to make money, as opposed to creating first team players.

Love it how everybody is jumping on the "farm system" bandwagon.
How many of the victims of this oppressive farm system have made it big? KdB and Lukaku? Two players out of what, 50, more? Even those two, were considered not good enough at the time, by Mourinho. It's bad business to hold onto players, hoping that one day they will turn out what you thought they will.

Remember Wilson, Januzaj, Blackett the next big things? Where are they now? Some make it, some don't, no matter how much they play, or where.
 
Love it how everybody is jumping on the "farm system" bandwagon.
How many of the victims of this oppressive farm system have made it big? KdB and Lukaku? Two players out of what, 50, more? Even those two, were considered not good enough at the time, by Mourinho. It's bad business to hold onto players, hoping that one day they will turn out what you thought they will.

Remember Wilson, Januzaj, Blackett the next big things? Where are they now? Some make it, some don't, no matter how much they play, or where.

Yeah except I've been calling it a farm system for 2 years. That's exactly what it is. Buy a player, loan him to vitesse or somewhere, make a fortune in loan fees.

You wouldn't buy 50 players in the first place and loan them out in the first place.

It's predominantly about FFP. Ony a fool would think its about trying to bring through youth
 
There is a pathway. Christensen starting against Tottenham is an emphatic answer to that. Ake, Chalobah and RLC not at the required level to be starting yet so at the most, they are options off the bench. Only regular game time will help them improve which is something they want and we cannot offer.

Ake and Chalobah both have buy-back clauses. RLC is on loan. All 3 will definitely be back if they reach the required level.

Christensen tried to leave Chelsea permanently, twice.
 
Cant remember him trying to force his way out like so many other players have tried/done/are doing it right now. There where only rumors of him wanting to stay at Germany more than coming back as there was no place for him.

Both times he wanted to stay permanently at BM, last season and this season.
 
Yeah except I've been calling it a farm system for 2 years. That's exactly what it is. Buy a player, loan him to vitesse or somewhere, make a fortune in loan fees.

You wouldn't buy 50 players in the first place and loan them out in the first place.

It's predominantly about FFP. Ony a fool would think its about trying to bring through youth

So following your logic, any good prospect at Chelsea has 0 chance of making the first team, because they are viewed as merchandise, who's only purpose is to fill the clubs coffers? You do realise how ridiculous you sound right now?
 
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Christensen tried to leave Chelsea permanently, twice.

Where did you get that from? Borussia Monchengladbach were desperate to have him but he never pushed for a move because he was assured of a place in the 17/18 squad which has happened.
 
Yeah except I've been calling it a farm system for 2 years. That's exactly what it is. Buy a player, loan him to vitesse or somewhere, make a fortune in loan fees.

You wouldn't buy 50 players in the first place and loan them out in the first place.

It's predominantly about FFP. Ony a fool would think its about trying to bring through youth

It is a farm system but that does not mean the club is not serious about developing and bringing youth through. Read the interviews of those who go out on loan. See the set-up and support the club has for them. Just because the outcomes have not been positive does not mean the aim of it is purely a farm system.
 
So following your logic, any good prospect at Chelsea has 0 chance of making the first team, because they are viewed as merchandise, who's only purpose is to fill the clubs coffers? You do realise how ridiculous you sound right now?

Except that's not what I said FFS. Not even going to bother continuing this with you.
 
Where did you get that from? Borussia Monchengladbach were desperate to have him but he never pushed for a move because he was assured of a place in the 17/18 squad which has happened.

He wanted to move permanently ahead of last season. He then wanted to go earlier this window before Chelsea deal breakdowns meant he was assured of a place
 
Love it how everybody is jumping on the "farm system" bandwagon.
How many of the victims of this oppressive farm system have made it big? KdB and Lukaku? Two players out of what, 50, more? Even those two, were considered not good enough at the time, by Mourinho. It's bad business to hold onto players, hoping that one day they will turn out what you thought they will.

Remember Wilson, Januzaj, Blackett the next big things? Where are they now? Some make it, some don't, no matter how much they play, or where.
Tbh 2 of the names there are terrible examples. Wilson has been blighted by injures for nearly a year and a half, but is still highly rated by coaches at Utd. And Blackett signed a new deal because Mourinho likes him but we are to stacked on defenders atm and Mourinho and **** made the decision to send out to play week on week out in a tough league. Januzaj is just an wasted idiot.
 
It is a farm system but that does not mean the club is not serious about developing and bringing youth through. Read the interviews of those who go out on loan. See the set-up and support the club has for them. Just because the outcomes have not been positive does not mean the aim of it is purely a farm system.

It was set up in 2013 as a means of getting round FFP, only recently has it become more geared towards trying to find breakthrough players. Its still not a very good system, its focus is too spread, and its predominantly aimed at a regular income, which it provides very well. Essentially they have gone for a trawler net approach to finding players.
 
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