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Matt419 said:
If Arsenal were the best team in the league last season then how come they finished 11 points behind Leicester? :D
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The memo must have passed you by points are irrelevant it's how close to goal you are when you shoot that matters whether the ball goes in as a result is a side note
 
damola3 said:
A manager who has already won it? We were the best team in the league last season and among the most efficient in Europe going forward and defensively. We created the most CCC and shortest shot distance in the prem since 2010/11. The only question mark is up top. You can't say we're not good enough unless there is serious regression from last year.

A big problem last year was giving Flamini 1,000+ minutes. That's criminal. May I remind you that we had a disproportionate number of knee ligament injuries. Soft tissue injuries weren't the biggest problems. The team was impacted by injuries last season but that wasn't a definitive factor. The definitive factor was the finishing slump where we undershot our expected goals like relegation fodder.
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Matt419 said:
If Arsenal were the best team in the league last season then how come they finished 11 points behind Leicester? :D
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To be honest last season I would say that Arsenal were poor for much of the second half of the season. They are a solid team, and I think it would be stupid to say that they can't win the title this season, but I just don't see it happening. But you never know.
 
ninjaskill said:
The memo must have passed you by points are irrelevant it's how close to goal you are when you shoot that matters whether the ball goes in as a result is a side note
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I was highlighting the fact that we needed a striker and we literally finished worse than relegation fodder. You claimed that we aren't good enough to win in excluding the striker position. I was pointing out that this is absurd. We were among the best in the league for defence last season and the highest for chance creation. The main factor was Giroud going on a 14 game dry run and the rest of the team suddenly being incapable of hitting a barn door.

My point is that last season was the most consistent since 2004 and we didn't wilt away after Christmas. Defence and chance creation was good. We were just exceptionally bad at finishing despite creating the best chances in the league.
 
You know FM-Base is a weird board when you realize Chelsea fans on the whole are the most down-to-earth and realistic when it comes to evaluating their team and season expectations :P
 
Matt419 said:
To be honest last season I would say that Arsenal were poor for much of the second half of the season. They are a solid team, and I think it would be stupid to say that they can't win the title this season, but I just don't see it happening. But you never know.
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Think about the United game today. Should United have failed to score, it would have been remembered as a poor performance and 2 points dropped. Scoring the first goal makes the world of a difference.

kitchin75 said:
1 thing why is this going on in this thread
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No idea.
 
damola3 said:
Think about the United game today. Should United have failed to score, it would have been remembered as a poor performance and 2 points dropped. Scoring the first goal makes the world of a difference.
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So I've done that feel happy as we won but, question. How does that relate to anything that Matt419 said?
 
0Marty said:
You know FM-Base is a weird board when you realize Chelsea fans on the whole are the most down-to-earth and realistic when it comes to evaluating their team and season expectations :P
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Can't believe your saying that its clear that United will win every league game and be handed the Champions League by default. Don't see how that is unreasonable
 
We were more than just bad at finishing... Injuries also ****** us impeccably. To say that we didn't wilt away in December is absolutely crazy and lets not forget about our in-capabilities of not performing against the small teams. If any of that didn't happen? I guess we would of walked it.
 
damola3 said:
It's not that difficult. It's whether they chose to.
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And they rarely choose to, because it's not necessary. Sometimes half a meter makes a difference between goal and no goal, not having to always correct your run in anticipation of incoming kung-fu tackle makes huge difference for modern attacking players.
 
ImAddicted said:
We were more than just bad at finishing... Injuries also ****** us impeccably. To say that we didn't wilt away in December is absolutely crazy and lets not forget about our in-capabilities of not performing against the small teams. If any of that didn't happen? I guess we would of walked it.
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We conceded less than a goal a game from Christmas onwards and still created chances. My point is that we did perform but finishing was really bad. You can't win it when your only striker goes on a 14 game dry spell. I don't say injuries are an excuse. We conceded under a goal a game and still created the most high quality chances in the second half of the season. If he had another striker we would have won it. That was the difference.
 
The irony of Arsenal fans talking about striker problems. injuries et all last season in this thread isn't lost on any L'pool supporter given what we had to deal with last year.

But that's football. You deal. You didn't. Wenger f-ed up again. It is what it is. Accept it and move on.
 
damola3 said:
We conceded less than a goal a game from Christmas onwards and still created chances. My point is that we did perform but finishing was really bad. You can't win it when your only striker goes on a 14 game dry spell. I don't say injuries are an excuse. We conceded under a goal a game and still created the most high quality chances in the second half of the season. If he had another striker we would have won it. That was the difference.
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I love how you try and rationalise it, face it you ****** it yet again, you wont have a better chance, there wont be another season were all the big boys **** up again.

And basically what you are saying here any of the other teams could have said

If Pool had a pre-season under Klopp
If Man City hadn't had an awful away record
If United hadn't been so ponderous in attack
If Chelsea hadn't imploded
If Saints hadn't sold all their top players
If Spurs hadn't been so slow in getting going
If Martinez was a bit more tactically astute

etc etc, its the stupidest excuse ever, you was not the best team in the league because Leicester had an 11 point lead on you and everty team could think what if, its boring
 
epic terrorist said:
I love how you try and rationalise it, face it you ****** it yet again, you wont have a better chance, there wont be another season were all the big boys **** up again.

And basically what you are saying here any of the other teams could have said

If Pool had a pre-season under Klopp
If Man City hadn't had an awful away record
If United hadn't been so ponderous in attack
If Chelsea hadn't imploded
If Saints hadn't sold all their top players
If Spurs hadn't been so slow in getting going
If Martinez was a bit more tactically astute

etc etc, its the stupidest excuse ever, you was not the best team in the league because Leicester had an 11 point lead on you and everty team could think what if, its boring
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Exactly no matter what happens throughout the season the final table never lies. The best and most consistent side always win.
 
epic terrorist said:
I love how you try and rationalise it, face it you ****** it yet again, you wont have a better chance, there wont be another season were all the big boys **** up again.....
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I'm glad for him he doesn't go watch Arsenal regularly as the situation over Wenger is getting SO toxic among the fans this sort of 'defence' (term used VERY loosely) would doubtless lead him into quite a few dodgy situations to put it mildly.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
I'm glad for him he doesn't go watch Arsenal regularly as the situation over Wenger is getting SO toxic among the fans this sort of 'defence' (term used VERY loosely) would doubtless lead him into quite a few dodgy situations to put it mildly.
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pretty sure at this point Damola is Wenger's Publicist
 
You guys need to take a breather. In my opinion, damola is OTT on quite a few things and its not always related to Arsenal. While he may be wrong, I certainly would not say he is biased. Also instead of just resorting to dismissing him, it would be good if you guys actually rebutted his posts head on.

I like him. He is an optimistic Arsenal fan. Thats a hugely rare species these days.
 
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