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dilakh2 said:
Sorry love him as a player but he should be left in the past. The guy has way too much influence within the club and would I feel be a big distraction.
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Don't see it.

Had it been Rodgers I could. But he's not over shadowing Klopp.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Don't see it.

Had it been Rodgers I could. But he's not over shadowing Klopp.
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Not Klopp the club in general. When you have someone as big as Gerrard return its going to cause disruption. I mean were talking about someone who had influence over what managers we had along with signings. This is a new era, say thank you and move on.
 
I personally don't see how him being a Kirkby learning his trade as a coach can be a distraction. The media can do what they want ut it's not effecting Klopp or the first team players under him. And surely he'd be great5 the academy for the young kids.

And let's not give his 'influence' more credit than it had. Managers? If he played a part in appointing either Hodgson or Rodgers he wants to give his head a serious wobble! He and his teammates certainly played a part in Hodgson in particular going by completely stopping playing for him granted. But that's a symptom across football today of just how much power the players hold sadly.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Do you also play with nine behind the ball in a block so deep its almost in the next town over, kicking anything that moves whilst launching it long to your lone, big striker hoping to win a free kick to pile your team of giants forward as thats your ONLY idea of football no matter what side you're playing?
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No but it sounds a good plan for FM17 cheers Scouse
 
Ugh. Mingolet starting 'Spurs. Let’s see how his fragile mind reacts in a game now he’s the clear #2. Hopefully he reacts well.
 
One more sleep and we get to watch these majestic Reds again take the next step on the road to (hopefully) a 9th League Cup.

It's like being a kid again all over. I would say I'm getting too old for this ****. But with these Reds, I really aren't. :D.
 
Another superb night out with Jürgens Reds.

I'll NEVER understand the attitude that the League Cup ISN'T important. Absolutely brilliant night that I invested just as much passion through as I did Sat'day the league against West Brom. People that diminish a major trophy and a chance of silverware are beyond me and make me SERIOUSLY question just WHY they are a football 'fan' to begin with?

Thankfully, these Reds, and their manager, want to win everything going. And I'm just fine experiencing that ride with them.

Tonight was the perfect game/ scenario at the perfect time. With Pochetino making it well known three weeks back he was putting out a second string, it allowed us for probably the only time this year outside of lower league opponents the FA Cup early rounds to make changes. And make changes he did. 11 of them from West Brom. With still a very experienced side (people STILL want to tell us we have no quality depth?) sprinkled with some of the best Kirkby has to offer. And to a man they were absolutely superb in another game were it not for the opposition 'keeper L'pool would of recorded another 4 or 5 goal win. Kudos to Vorm who made two absolute Worldie stops among his many. The 15/20 minute spell the start the second half was one of the best we've produced all season, which is saying something for these special Reds; with some stunning, relentless attacking football. Sturridge and Origi absolutely superb. I just LOVED how Sturridge went to sort out Origi's cramp, notifying the bench then leading the applause for him going off. The selfish **** that he is like according to the media! Trent Alexander-Arnold showing just why he's so highly thought of and why there was no intention of buying a back-up for Clyne the summer in a superb debut. Ejaria with another very mature showing way beyond his 18 years. Grujić displaying his full repertoire of talents that had him such a highly sought after target across Europe. Lucas being a proper captain and leading by experienced example whilst helping every last one of them. Complete and utter disgrace the ******* ref. could give a peno for that. Kev Stewart as dependable as ever outside of a 10 minute spell before half time he pushed up too much and got caught. Even Alby Moreno and Mingolet having excellent games to their credit given the situation they've been relegated to. But Sturridge and Origi, complimented by Danny Ings when he came on, were a cut above anything the park. Brilliant to see Origi's back playing with confidence and finally looking like the Divock that ended last season. With Daniel Sturridge yet again reminding everyone that he's by far and away the best striker at the club and the best England has to offer by a Country mile. When he play's like that he's an absolute dream to watch. But frustratingly, he often doesn't and lacks that movement at pace which renders him nowhere near the fit for this team that Bobby Firmino is. A frustrating quandary he needs to adapt and sort out himself if he's to get more nights like tonight as the star performer.

Eleven changes, a change in formation to a 4-4-2 diamond, with a couple of top kids to boot, and not a drop off in the sparkling football that's been evident all season.

Roll on tomorrows draw and the next victims. Can it be Sat'day already and Palace?

Up the (yet another) League Cup Quarter Final hungry Reds!
 
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Only real complaint is Moreno still being caught a mile out of position when Harrison had that late chance to equalise. Otherwise superb all around, Origi was sensational and all of the young guys impressed. So happy for Sturridge to bag a couple as well - like you said, we could have had 5 or 6 were it not for Vorm being in exceptional form once again
 
PatrickLFC said:
Only real complaint is Moreno still being caught a mile out of position when Harrison had that late chance to equalise. Otherwise superb all around, Origi was sensational and all of the young guys impressed. So happy for Sturridge to bag a couple as well - like you said, we could have had 5 or 6 were it not for Vorm being in exceptional form once again
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There's something really, really special being built here mate right through the club. The pathway he's creating from the brilliant work going on at Kirkby through to Melwood was in full blown technicolour out there tonight against another major rival. Easily dealt with and dispatched.

By the growing game this has all the hallmarks of being a season for the ages.
 
Bujakaa said:
Scous how Klavan was?
I didint watch the game, as Leeds came back two times from falling behind, second time with 10 man and then winning the shootout.
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First off, congratulations on reaching the quarters. Exciting times huh waiting for tonights draw?

Ragnar the Red was sound. Nothing special. Just the dependable, experienced, cool head we've come to expect. Just no fuss fine. Which is all you need out of a centre half. He's been an excellent pick-up for the pittance of £ 4.2 million.

Our defence as a whole has been massively improved this year. Other fans on these here boards seem to be believing the media bullshit over the lack of clean sheets and the crazed analysis of the set piece defending every time we concede. But overall we've been excellent defensively. It'll probably come as a major surprise to people, but in the Premier League this term, L'pool's defence has limited the opposition to less shots at their goal per game than any other team in the league. An average of 8 per game over the season. No goals conceded from open play in the last 6 games just adds to that. From open play we're defending superbly.

Everyone, wrongly and naively, just thinks as Klopp as an all out attack, 'heavy metal' football manager. Completely forgetting that he spent a large chunk of his playing career at centre half as us such has as good an appreciation and understanding for that end of the pitch as he does the attacking end. The first thing he did at Dortmund was have a massive turnaround in their defence. (They went from conceding 62 goals the previous season as runners-up to 38 his first year.). Just like he did at Mainz. And just like he repeatedly said when he came to L'pool that all good sides are built from the back and that defensive base. We've conceded 12 goals now in 12 games this season. A quarter of which came in the opening game at Arsenal. With no side scoring more than one against us the last 10 games and counting. And that's been done with out the first choice back four and goalkeeper for all but three of those games.

L'pool have conceded only 2 more goals through the first quarter of the league season than Arsenal, Chelsea and City. And 1 less than Utd. Tottenham have only conceded 4. Yet all have been from set plays. But funnily enough the media aren't micro-analysing their problems defending them. Yet even given the more than favourable comparisons this 'myth' that our defence is poor and will ultimately cost us keeps being perpetuated by the media and believed and repeated by opposition fans as the latest stick to beat a L'pool side everyone is getting more and more fearful of by the passing game.

Special props to Alberto Moreno last night who was superb. When he's not in the side, you forget the lightening pace and attacking threat he brings which is almost unmatched throughout the PL in that skill set regard at the position. Last night, the same as his last outing at Derby, he was very smart in both possession and positionaly in knowing when to go and when not. Yeah, he got caught out a couple of times and everyone was groaning as it was Alby Moreno with his past history. But that's going to happen regardless with the chances we take going forward and the last two games he's played he's looked markedly better at that. He was also timing his challenges much better and not blindly diving in as before whilst still making some superb, hard tackles. He's looked like a proper, modern, all round full back his last two outings which is an unbelievable thing to say on him after the first two years.

It's been very noticeable Klopp has gone to of his way twice now to make a point of how fantastic Moreno has been in training and how hard he's working.

Maybe, just maybe, this time out of the limelight sat learning watching Milner and working hard to what's asked from the coaches in training will leave us with the long term LB solution already on our books.
 
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Only just caught the highlights, sounded like a great game.

Home tie for the quarters please. I'll probably go that one.
 
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