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Really disappointed that Klopp dropped Karius, hope Mingo has a blinder though. Even worse are hashtags on Twitter like #blockkarius. I swear sometimes football fans are the most fickle minded bunch of plebs out there.
 
Could be just that he wants to keep rotating them and with no cup games until January, he's decided to give Mignolet a midweek game or two
 
Excellent nights work.

2 game blip over. Riverside record well and truly rectified. Middlesbrough put to the sword and destroyed for the first real time this year.

3 great goals, the one touch interplay the second was superb. Brilliant goal which big Div tucked away for his 5th in 5 games, and 10th in his last 11th starts. (Funes More, you horrible little *****! He's coming for YOU!). Lallana now has more league goals (6, along with his 6th assist tonight) since his last year at Southampton. Big Si making a great save at 1-0 first half, and showing good handling and distribution throughout. Even if he did have next to nottin' to do second half. Very calm and assured. All you require in a 'keeper which he hasn't often shown. Hopefully he continues in this vein. Ejaria getting more of a taste and Trent adding his league debut the end. If Mané hadn't hit the post late first half it would of been just about the perfect rebound game. Good nights work at our nightmare football ground.

And the three goals scored (a whopping 52 now through 20 games) takes us back into second behind Chelsea.

Up the 'Can't win the league with defending like L'pool!' Reds!

Bring on the Blue *****!
 
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PatrickLFC said:
Could be just that he wants to keep rotating them and with no cup games until January, he's decided to give Mignolet a midweek game or two
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Lol. I like the 'midweek Cup' line. Joking aside, you don't rotate 'keepers. Of all the positions in a team, they need to be playing every week. You can't come in cold.

It's just plainly taking a young 'keeper out the firing line right now as there's SO much OTT focus/ scrutiny on EVERYTHING he does. It's gone way beyond any normal situation.

Protecting his 'keeper of the future.

Personally wouldn't of made the change but I can see why he has. And now Mignolet's the man to get behind again.
 
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I don't think it was the greatest move to drop him. If you wanted to protect him, you wouldn't have gone about it that way initially. Makes Klopp look weak on that front tbh.

That said, didnt change the result.
 
Mike. said:
I don't think it was the greatest move to drop him. If you wanted to protect him, you wouldn't have gone about it that way initially. Makes Klopp look weak on that front tbh.

That said, didnt change the result.
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'Initially' being yesterday's press conference jibe back at the Nevilles? He wasn't so much talking about Karius there as making a general point on all players. And in so doing taking the attention back onto himself.

I wouldn't of pulled him, for no other reason than I don't trust Mignolet. But I don't see any problem with the reasoning behind it with all the bullshit going on surrounding Loris. He's just turned 23. He'll come back stronger in time.
 
Interesting to see who starts in the merseyside derby as if their is a keeper mistake in that game that is costly that could have a huge impact, also as Mingolet made no errors would show where Karius stands. In hindsight with Middlesbrough being the lowest scoring side in the league they may have been a good team for Karius to get his confidence back against although Mingolet did have to amje a couple good saves
 
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After his dig at Neville for slating him he'd look a bit silly if he dropped him so I really can't see that. Plus Mignolet is hardly an improvement on anything lol.
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**** Kloppo looks silly right now after dropping Karius, bringing Mignolet in and getting a clean sheet while scoring 3 fantastic team goals.

Silly Klopp.
 
Scouse, given that Karius went all biz and brazen, and Klopp railed at both Bournemouth and the rest, it did smack somewhat of tracking back, and Mig was good when eventually called up on, it doesnt exactly smack of the faith he's put out there that he has in him. No issue with pulling a player out the firing line, just very off after all the comments leading up to it. Be interesting for the derby now.
 
Wouldn't disagree it was a strange way of going around it but he's made the decision now.

Don't think there's much doubt Mignolet will be in nets Monday and going forward. You're not just changing them for one game.

More interesting for me, presuming he doesn't mess up and is solid over Chrimbo, does Karius then come in the League Cup semi January? He's been playing Mignolet that competition whilst Karius has been in the league. But this is the serious business of the semi finals. Real curious to see whether he just leaves Simon in right through both the league and League Cup and maybe just easies Karius back in the lower league third round FA Cup tie and hopefully the same the fourth round?
 
All a bit complicated now perhaps. Home to Boro, i'd have sent him out there with the crowd behind him. Think a lot will come down to Mig's form now.
 
When was the last time we actually had a GK that could/would win us games? Personally think we should just spend some big money either in Jan or end of the season on a actual good GK.
 
Danny said:
When was the last time we actually had a GK that could/would win us games? Personally think we should just spend some big money either in Jan or end of the season on a actual good GK.
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Personally think our GK coach aint up to scratch. Since Achterbeg has come in all the keepers he has coached have gone downhill.
 
Danny said:
When was the last time we actually had a GK that could/would win us games? Personally think we should just spend some big money either in Jan or end of the season on a actual good GK.
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Hopefully Karius becomes that.

That was the intention. To develop him for the long haul. Just not had not too great a start. But he's young and has bags of potential. I don't know as I never saw him so much as play one game in Germany but they all rave about him over there and he must have something to of been voted second only to Neur in Bundesliga 'keepers by his fellow professionals right? And being as Klopp's a self confessed Mainz fan, he's watched him way more times than any of us and wouldn't of got him if he didn't think he was upto it.

Just need to be patient mate. Let's not forget Brucie Grobbelaar and Pepe Reina both looked real dodgy initially over here. And they didn't turn out half bad. Hopefully he really improves out of the limelight and comes back the 'keeper we all hope.

WAY too early to be making any snap judgements on him as many have.
 
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dilakh2 said:
Personally think our GK coach aint up to scratch. Since Achterbeg has come in all the keepers he has coached have gone downhill.
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I honestly don't know what to think there.

I'd be tempted to agree where it not for Klopp absolutely raving about him. A 'keeper coach isn't on much and would be dead easy to replace but he's retained him. Making sure the club extended Achterberg along with the other three when he himself extended another 6 years. He retains the managers full confidence. And he's shown how ruthless he is when he needs to be. But yet he's done nottin' but praise Achterberg.

That's Kenny, Rodgers and now Klopp. I'm struggling to believe all three would be happy with Achterberg if he was THAT bad a coach.
 
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spook said:
Lallana is our best player at the moment.
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He's been the best English player for club and Country by a long chalk this season. And along with Coutinho, Mané and Firmino would probably be most reds player of the year thus far.

One player who I think deserves massive recognition that doesn't get it from fans and pundits alike for me is Gini Wijnaldum. He's been superb from his first game. He does all the grafting to allow those above four to flourish. For someone that came with a reputation of being a typical #10 with the ego's they invariably carry, with Newcastle fans telling us 'he wasn't a team player/ would go missing away from home/ was lazy et all', he's been the most selfless player on both sides every game we've played this year. He's way stronger than I ever imagined he was. His passing and touch are typically Dutch sublime. He's always playing off the front foot and is on the turn when he receives the ball so the space is already created. Get's forward brilliantly to support the attack. And his work rate is absolutely phenomenal. He allows Henderson, Can and even Milner to bomb forward at times by just dropping in and doing the donkey work protecting them. He's just a real tidy, top ability footballer who keeps everything ticking over.

I think the reason he's going under the radar is you probably have to be at the match to fully appreciate what he does. You're not going to get him picked out on MOTD as a focus. He's strong in the tackle, keeps everything ticking over with his passing, his intelligence at always being open to receive and play is brilliant. He is Ronnie Whelan. And just like Ronnie Whelan, he's going under appreciated by many who still say 'I don't know what Gini Wijnaldum does?' because he's not blaming them in or up there top the assists. But nobody protects the football better in that aesthetically lovely Dutch way. Not just protecting it and keeping it. But protecting it and going forward. This new roll Klopp and co have devised for him is suiting him completely down to the ground.

He's one of the most vital cogs of all to me in this side and like the aforementioned Whelan, it's when he's not in the side that you suddenly realise and appreciate just what you're missing.
 
God, Origi has 17 goals from 21 starts for us? Man, I knew he was on a great run like but thats ridiculous for a 21 year old that's nowhere near developed into what you hope.

Phew.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
God, Origi has 17 goals from 21 starts for us? Man, I knew he was on a great run like but thats ridiculous for a 21 year old that's nowhere near developed into what you hope.

Phew.
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Since I first saw him at Lille before he signed for you guys I knew he would develop into something good. He still has a way to go before he hits the ceiling for me, has that real striker knack of being in the right place at the right time too.
 
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