No spin. United went from 4-3-3 to 4-2-3-1 via Rooney. Lallana wasn't even the most influential player on your team, let alone the game. Apart from his good shot, he barely played effective passes in our half, let alone our defensive third, he didnt successfull beat his man, or create a chance, and in terms of turning the high press into a counter, he did that just once in our half, with an interception
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Herrera out passed him in the opposition half despite playing deeper, and won the ball higher up the pitch and more often, and created more (not by much, creating one good chance), and beat more players (again not by much)
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This is why L'pool and Utd can't watch a game together.
The converse view would be Lallana, playing at the front of the diamond we completely surprised you with, was finding that much space in between Carrick and Herrara/ behind them in front of the two centre half's who didn't know whether to stick of twist and step out that much the first half to the point it was as much do with Carrick being absolute dog _____ for once that he got yanked as much as any change in formation.
But we're gonna' have completely differing views on how that played out. It just is what it is.
The converse view would be Lallana, playing at the front of the diamond we completely surprised you with, was finding that much space in between Carrick and Herrara/ behind them in front of the two centre half's who didn't know whether to stick of twist and step out that much the first half to the point it was as much do with Carrick being absolute dog _____ for once that he got yanked as much as any change in formation.
But we're gonna' have completely differing views on how that played out. It just is what it is.
Mourinho has pulled Carrick for Rooney at HT to go 4-2-3-1 on a few occasions when we've needed to be more aggressive this season. So no, Adam Lallana wasn't the reason he was taken off. If he was so threatening, and if he was the reason, then surely it wouldn't make sense to go a man light in midfield. It was an aggressive substitute, nothing more nothing less. It had nothing to do with anything any Liverpool player showed, more so what United players didn't show.
Lallana a #10 for me, Klopp has done wonders with him in this deeper role. A very technical player, very talented, but I personally wouldn't take him in the middle of the park for any of our natural central midfielders.
Lallana a #10 for me, Klopp has done wonders with him in this deeper role. A very technical player, very talented, but I personally wouldn't take him in the middle of the park for any of our natural central midfielders.
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Again, we're naturally gonna' have a completely different view on that so it is what it is.
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No lallana or lovern tomorrow looking like the same team as last week which means can and wingi in the middle which everyone knows doesnt work
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Real shame the young Serb has had such an injury hit first season. Been plenty of opportunitys for him but alas he's not been healthy.
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We better had. This goes on much longer Arsenal, Chelsea, City and 'Spurs will disappear into the sunset and we'll be left fighting it out with you lads for the 'honour' of who finishes 5/6th!
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Pool banned all S*n reporters from their matches and press conferences. About time and I would like every club to follow suit
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I know he's not been great this season but I would love to see Sturridge get a run of 5 starts to see whether he can pick some form up, coming on for 20 minutes isnt really going to get him going. Obviously the second question is can he manage 5 starts without his weetabix legs caving in.
Such a shame to see him where he is now because he can be truly unbelievable when in form.
Such a shame to see him where he is now because he can be truly unbelievable when in form.
Dont think he will ever fit in with Klopp's style of play. Right now he is just a luxury player who is out of form. If he's not scoring its like playing with 10 because he isn't doing much else.
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It's always been a funny situation with the club and that rag. Easy to see where lines get blurred.
Way back 28 years ago things were completely different with the press and football clubs. The scums Merseyside correspondent, Mike Ellis, a real solid, loved and respected old school journalist had a lot of friends within L'pool to the point that when he was on the verge of resigning, so disgusted and upset at what that absolute despicable sh*tbag McKenzie had run; Peter Robinson by all accounts persuaded him to stay on. The relationship with Ellis was really valued. As it was with all the local guys the club could trust to not let anything come out that didn't need to. (One incident that springs personally to mind was being on the same flight as the players and press to Vladikavkaz back the mid-90's <which was a trip and a half by itself to a Chechen war zone- Being escorted in by Russian MIGS and having a bevy watching missiles flying through the sky in the distance is quite the experience but I digress ..... >, when a young Fowler cut up Ruddock's shoes the plane home which lead to mid air bedlam when Ruddock woke up and come steaming down the aisle looking for revenge. Nobody ever revealed why Fowler got off that plane with a black eye and bust lip. Ellis was one of the press lads on that flight. Today. it'd be all over social media in an instance. And from so called journalists let alone fans.). So, rightly or wrongly, the club didn't want to lose a trusted confident and correspondent down to his low life POS editor.
That I got. It was a wholly different landscape three decades back and those trusted relationships were highly cherished. Even if I never fully agreed. But Mike Ellis retired in 2003 and it's always grated that nobody from L'pool has stood up and fully banned the rag until the pressure from what's currently going on within the City which is spreading Country wide.
And even then the lines get blurry ..... L'pool players have it in their contracts they can't give exclusive interviews to the paper. The club sends out it's own copy to press organisations specifically saying it can't go to the S*n. (They always have to run things second hand from the copy of other papers rather than officially from the club.). Yet they've never taken the step to ban the S*n's Merseyside correspondent from press conferences at either Melwood or Anfield until now.
From the clubs POV, I guess it's been on a season by season basis with decisions made by a host of different individuals relevant at the time as to what would or wouldn't effect the football club. Currently within the City you have two massive pressure groups, 'Shun the S*n' and 'Total Eclipse of the S*n' working to completely eradicate the paper not only from every shop shelf in Merseyside but Country wide. It's on every taxi. Shops have posters up saying the refuse to sell it. Even the big supermarkets have removed it from their shelves. And the Council has backed them. And it's the 'Total Eclipse of the S*n' guys who have brought this around seemingly by getting in touch with the club who've finally listened and joined in with the rest of the big organisations within the City.
I'm happy of course with todays LONG overdue decision. And fair play to FSG for being the ones to finally standup. But I've never understood why a complete ban from the football club on that rag has taken SO long to come about. And that goes for both clubs. You won't find many Evertonian's who haven't wanted Everton to do the exact same thing over the years and stand side by side in solidarity. One of their main supporters groups has asked for that very thing from Everton today.
So that's how lines have easily gotten blurred on this if it helps.
If it was upto me I'd of had a blanket ban nigh on 28 years ago when we woke up to be told we'd killed our own and the heinous lies so many (sadly still) believed started. But I can appreciate how it's never been as easy as that from the football clubs POV. Particularly in the aftermath and the completely different football/ press landscape to what it is today.
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It's the what they do and what International Law decrees mate.
Arsenal must win their cherished 'Top 4 Cup' every season or the World will end.
It just is what it is.
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I'd personally go with a front thee of Mané, Daniel and Firmino with Phil dropped back to give Tottenham something to think about (even if Lallana makes it. The three of Coutinho, Lallana and Henderson playing together I like to play around and counter the strength of Spurs midfield) and force them to drop Ali back in to help the aforementioned most powerful central midfield there is the entire league for me in Dembélé and Wanyama. You can't take that on as a two. And certainly not a two of frigging Can and Wijnaldum as Db said. They'd just get overpowered.
Lot of interesting questions to be answered tomorrow. He was very non-comital and quite humorous in dealing with them today, particularly the G/K question. But he did allude to their being a shakeup earlier in the week. Whether that was just to literally shake the players up this week or he'll actually make changes remains to be seen. Personally I'd defo play Trent as Clynes still not fully fit and maybe even play Moreno and rest Milner. Walker's a continued weak link to get behind that side and with no Rose the other, they'll be more emphasis on him from Tottenham attacking you'd imagine.
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Still a complete bottom dwelling gutter rag to this day with the depths they continually sink to and the **** they pull to ruin peoples lives. Irrespective of any B/S about (way too late) apologies or a different staff there now. The ethos will NEVER change. They still employ Kelvin f-ing McKenzie for crying out loud!
As et alluded to over the page, it'd be nice for every football club to do the same and play a part in maybe finishing them off for good.
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