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Reading all the tributes pouring in is testament to the man. The words from the captain just sum it up. You don't stay nearly 50 years at a place of work if you aren't terrifically hard-working. Nice that his book came out a few weeks back titled 'MR LIVERPOOL.' Outside of Paisley, there couldn't be a more fitting title for anyone connected to this great club. 343 games as a player winning the 2nd and 1st Division titles. Invited onto the coaching staff by Shanks in '66, working his way up through the kids and ressi's, winning numeroud Central League titles when the Central League was a TOP league and the battle to play for L'pool reserves was as coveted as most first team slots; to join the first team in '74. And being a part the next 24 years of a ridiculous 38 trophy's. Serving under 9 consecutive managers since joining the club at 14 and doing every job from player, physio, coach, kit man, caretaker manager and all points in between. You name it, like Bob, he did it.

Loving reading all the stories coming out today. Particularly the arl favourite of him coming in the start of pre-season with all the medals from the previous year's championship in a cardboard box saying 'If you've earned one, take one. But last season means nottin' and the hard work starts again now!' So typically L'pool. Humble in success. Keeping them all grounded to go do it all again.

He just completely epitomises the very ethos of both the football club and City that continues to this day under Jürgen. Honest, hard work and accountability. And such a humble, nice fella' with it. A genuine Scouser who just embodied what we are.

Football men like Ronnie are few and far between. Legend is an oft-used phrase but he is a GENUINE LEGEND not only to this City and football club. But football in general. The game has lost a GREAT one today.

Really am devoed by today's news. This one stings as much as any LFC loss ever could.

God bless Ronnie lad. Thank you for everything you tirelessly gave for the vast majority of your life to this fantastic football institution and our City. Sure you're now back together with Shanks, Bob, Joe, Reuben and the lads in the great boot room in the sky showing Sir Matt and Revie and co how to do it all over again.

Many cracking tributes and pieces all over today that anyone can easily find. Here's a couple of audio's from his son and a multitude of ex-players on the book launch a few weeks back:

https://audioboom.com/posts/5734946-ronnie-moran-mr-liverpool

Podcast special - 'Mr Liverpool' Ronnie Moran in the words of his son Paul - Liverpool Echo
 
Liverpool's old-school route from the Academy to the Jurgen Klopp's first team - Goal.com

Another excellent read on well arguably the most flourishing academy the entire league (given the ultimate goal is getting players to first team level and that list is growing by the passing season) already before we even start to think about the new combined super modern facility being developed the next year or so at Kirkby.

As we prepare to remember the passing of the great Ronnie Moran Sat'day dinner, the old school L'pool values of hard work, accountability and humility being instilled at every level by Jürgen as he turns the whole culture around ties everything up perfectly.
 
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scouse did you lot get any help for the new stand i only ask cos from what i have read about the blue half geting help with there new ground
 
scouse did you lot get any help for the new stand i only ask cos from what i have read about the blue half geting help with there new ground

Still a prentendy new ground until it happens regardless of anything Anderson wants to talk about.

No. L'pool have had no council help with anything. But then we don't have a gobshite blue Mayor to fix the backhanded deals to secure land and guarantee loans. Which is all rather ironic being as they're the 'Merseyside Millionaires' whom Liverpudlians are now insanely jealous of apparently. Just not £300 million (which is massively cheap by itself for a new ground in England. Not least with all the renovations that would have to go on down the Dock Road) millionaires it would seem.

I'll believe it when I see it.

As of now, Bramley Dock remains what it is. The 'latest' new Evertonian ghost ground.
 
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No it's early days yet but it sounds like it's gonna go ahead. One of the guests on Sunday Supp said it will get the all clear planning permission etc. By early next year. And already started plans for the redevelopment at Goodson. Will see I guess. Nice of the local government to give them a hand. Least they will be able to get cheap steal for construction.
 
Yeah. Lovely that to be a tax payer of a local council willing to act as guarantor to a minimum £300 million pound loan (aside from all the renovations they'd have to do themselves down the Dock Road), being burdened with any default risk with all associated interest to be paid out of future revenue; whilst the Blues super duper (alleged) billionaire owner doesn't put a penny of his own money in.

Majority shareholder with none of his own income at risk. And they laughed at Hicks and Gillet ....
 
I work with Archie! Never realised he had such a following, or was verified
 
I work with Archie! Never realised he had such a following, or was verified

You might want to suggest he 'frames' his tweets better then.

For whatever reason (maybe his big dip in form before the manager change? Maybe someone like Keita is that bit more dynamic for them?), L'pool's interest in Dahoud stopped back before Christmas as per the reliable local journo's.

Shame, as I like what I've seen from Dahoud personally and wouldn't of minded him in the midfield mix. Still a ways to go but certainly worth developing.

But I'm not privvy to what goes into transfer switches so onto the next one.
 
You might want to suggest he 'frames' his tweets better then.

For whatever reason (maybe his big dip in form before the manager change? Maybe someone like Keita is that bit more dynamic for them?), L'pool's interest in Dahoud stopped back before Christmas as per the reliable local journo's.

Shame, as I like what I've seen from Dahoud personally and wouldn't of minded him in the midfield mix. Still a ways to go but certainly worth developing.

But I'm not privvy to what goes into transfer switches so onto the next one.
The only people saying that he stopped being a target was goal.com. There is literally no reason why he should frame that tweet differently, when he is better placed than both you and I. Keita isn't the answer if Dahoud was a long term target.
 
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Oh, I wasn't having a go at your mate. Just badly framed tweets in general. We see it all the time on here from the amount Tod passes on with very little substance that people bounce off.

Back after the window shut, both Mel Reddy (aside from her piece this morning before the Dortmund links broke again) and Dom King, maybe Barrett, someone of their reputable ilk for informed info on Merseyside footie; said we'd dropped our interest. We (generally, not you and I) had a discussion on it on these here boards being as we'd tried to bag him the summer but Gladbach wouldn't sell with all their other key departures. The only links since then have been out of Germany with English papers/ sites bouncing off them.

Then this teatime, his agent apparently put's out that he's 'turned down L'pool' in favour of Dortmund and when it's framed that way people get the complete wrong impression. Frustrates the **** out of me when people so readily do that.

No idea at all if the Keita links have serious substance. Just posing it as it's recent as a possible reason why they may be going in another direction. Far more dynamic a player to be in a rotation with both the Wijnaldum and Henderson roles than Dahoud right now.
 
Ben Woodburn wasn't even born the last time Everton won at Anfield.

I don't know whether to be worried for Sat'day that the law of averages says that has to end at some point or just expect the norm to carry on and Everton to **** out of the Derby as always? oO).

Personally, I'd love to see Ben in the starting XI with Phil dropped back the Lallana role and Can and Wijnaldum alongside each other. (Not sure you bring Henderson straight back into the Derby but then he did Utd after he'd been missing a good few weeks.). ANYTHING bar a three of Lucas, Can and Gini. God forbid we EVER see that no pace horror show again.
 
Dahoud is a passer, one your side doesn't have in any way. shape or form. He is what Sahin and Gundogan were to Klopp. Keita is powerful and covers a lot of ground, but split sides he does not.

It was Dom King, who nabbed that from Goal. Whether Goal is accurate, is another debate entirely
 
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