The Liverpool Thread

[Mike.]

Oh the hypocrisy of most every football club and it's fans. (But yeah Rh, 'both' didn't leave for that reason. One's taking a massive step up. One stepped sideways at best for the money.).

Still bemused how anyone thinks van Dijk handing in a transfer request still isn't directed solely as a plea to L'pool as Southampton had no issues dealing with any other club to this point without that. Bar the one who had to make the B/S apology and now have to bide their time to come back in.

Liverpool were not in the same ball park as City when Sterling moved, both in manager and squad capabality. Liverpool have a better manager than before. City have better players, more money, and Pep Guardiola. And he didnt move for the money. He went for the full package, like VVD is trying to do. Or do you not think he will be paid handsomely?

One would have to be incredibly one eyed to believe Liverpool were on the same level as City when he moved. They moved for the same reasons. Fans just have massive double standards

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

And again, as always, when he started his B/S the previous summer, after finishing a game outside of City being an integral part of that inside playing still his best footie of his career to date, well before Guardiola tipped up at City, it was purely about money.

But you always like to do revisionist history on Raheem so feel free. That's past. He's gone. I really aren't interested.

As I said, hypocrisy and football clubs/ fans. Guilty. Nothing new there.

 

[Mike.]

And again, as always, when he started his B/S the previous summer, after finishing a game outside of City being an integral part of that inside playing still his best footie of his career to date, well before Guardiola tipped up at City, it was purely about money.

But you always like to do revisionist history on Raheem so feel free. That's past. He's gone. I really aren't interested.

As I said, hypocrisy and football clubs/ fans. Guilty. Nothing new there.

Nothing revisionist about it. Thats right up there with narrative as one of the shittest phrases. I made the exact same points from the moment he was leaving.

City still remain better placed to win trophies than Liverpool, as it was when he left.

 

[iamauser]

Can the Season start and the transfer window close now plz. Getting bored of a lack of football.

 

[Average Joe]

Go to page 2004 onwards in the thread for some Sterling retro entertainment

 

[Mike.]

Go to page 2004 onwards in the thread for some Sterling retro entertainment

How have you got page 2004. This is page 1093 for me

 

[ninjaskill]

How have you got page 2004. This is page 1093 for me

He'll have 10 posts per page you will have 30

 

[Dokara]

3279 for me.

 

[Average Joe]

How have you got page 2004. This is page 1093 for me

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/english-football/69388-liverpool-thread-2004.html#post2776999

Depends on posts per page mate. Go from there ^ haha

 

[Mike.]

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/english-football/69388-liverpool-thread-2004.html#post2776999

Depends on posts per page mate. Go from there ^ haha

What kind of maniac only has 10 posts per page.

Also Ibe better than sterling, forgot about that debate

 

[Average Joe]

What kind of maniac only has 10 posts per page.

Also Ibe better than sterling, forgot about that debate

Never changed the page count, don't even know where to do it, never looked!

TBF Scouse said he had the potential to be, didn't say he was

*Edit* just changed it.

Also, Suso has actually become decent for Milan.....then again we now have Borini so, swings and roundabouts!

 

[epic terrorist]

What kind of maniac only has 10 posts per page.

Also Ibe better than sterling, forgot about that debate

the good old days (K)

 

[Mike.]

I do think Liverpool have a problem here with Coutinho. I dont think this is a "wait till next season" move. I think Barcelona will look to seal all their gaps in the next few weeks, and there's a good chance they wont come calling again. How hard does he push without damaging relations with the club? Too many people at FSG like Kroenke's business model, will they just take 110m?

 

[mayankv]

I do think Liverpool have a problem here with Coutinho. I dont think this is a "wait till next season" move. I think Barcelona will look to seal all their gaps in the next few weeks, and there's a good chance they wont come calling again. How hard does he push without damaging relations with the club? Too many people at FSG like Kroenke's business model, will they just take 110m?

I genuinely feel that this window can turn from average to horrible for Liverpool.

Who do we get in to replace him? What good is a 100 or whatever million.

Plus the VVD saga. No bids made yet as per most sources.

So effectively Liverpool can end the window, worse off than they were at the begining. Lost out on 2/3 main targets and also lose the teams most creative and argubly best player

 

[dilakh2]

I do think Liverpool have a problem here with Coutinho. I dont think this is a "wait till next season" move. I think Barcelona will look to seal all their gaps in the next few weeks, and there's a good chance they wont come calling again. How hard does he push without damaging relations with the club? Too many people at FSG like Kroenke's business model, will they just take 110m?

If he does go then I wish him the very best, he has been professional on and off the pitch and has never bad mouthed the club. Like you said Mike it all comes down to FSG and if they see the money as too good to turn down. Losing Coutinho isn't as big a blow if the clubs target is top 4 but if you want to challenge for the league then you dont sell your best player.

 

[Mike.]

If he does go then I wish him the very best, he has been professional on and off the pitch and has never bad mouthed the club. Like you said Mike it all comes down to FSG and if they see the money as too good to turn down. Losing Coutinho isn't as big a blow if the clubs target is top 4 but if you want to challenge for the league then you dont sell your best player.

As a statement, losing him isn't good. And then after that, it's hard to replace him this late in the window, especially when not getting Keita.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

People do put themselves through some unnecessary angst through rumour and speculation during a window.

These things should come with a Government Health Warning if you're going to buy into them.

 

[Regista Magista]

I genuinely feel that this window can turn from average to horrible for Liverpool.

Who do we get in to replace him? What good is a 100 or whatever million.

Plus the VVD saga. No bids made yet as per most sources.

So effectively Liverpool can end the window, worse off than they were at the begining. Lost out on 2/3 main targets and also lose the teams most creative and argubly best player

I disagree with this kind of logic.

If we sell a player, albeit our best one, for a reasonable price (which £100m is, in my opinion) then I don't think that makes us 'worse off' as it gives us the ability to replace him. And besides, even if we don't, we have the money to do so in the future.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

I disagree with this kind of logic.

If we sell a player, albeit our best one, for a reasonable price (which £100m is, in my opinion) then I don't think that makes us 'worse off' as it gives us the ability to replace him. And besides, even if we don't, we have the money to do so in the future.

I'd normally agree but at this late stage of the window, it'd be a pointless exercise. You'd just be sat with £100 plus million burning a hole yer back pocket and nowhere to take it. Too late to realistically get anyone else in. And if you did have an eye on someone, their price doubles and you get skanked because clubs know you have the ridiculous money sitting around.

But as there's absolutely no way Phil is leaving this window (unless he himself agitated for a move and he's not going to do that at all); it's a complete non-discussion.

Just ignore the media and Barca trying their damnedest to disrupt things by putting one B/S story after another out there.

 

[mayankv]

I'd normally agree but at this late stage of the window, it'd be a pointless exercise. You'd just be sat with £100 plus million burning a hole yer back pocket and nowhere to take it. Too late to realistically get anyone else in. And if you did have an eye on someone, their price doubles and you get skanked because clubs know you have the ridiculous money sitting around.

But as there's absolutely no way Phil is leaving this window (unless he himself agitated for a move and he's not going to do that at all); it's a complete non-discussion.

Just ignore the media and Barca trying their damnedest to disrupt things by putting one B/S story after another out there.

My point exactly. Its too late in the window to think of viable replacements.

And I have to agree with Mike, it is not a good message to send out to the fans. Nonetheless, I hope you're right and he doesn't leave and we also sign VVD.