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It's going to be a tough game Scouse.
Liverpool are playing good footie and I certainly wouldn't be going around on match day with a cheesy grin.
 
BTW, anyone need to lose weight, go stand the back the Kop on a scorcher like this avvi.

Christ, me kecks were swimming by half-time. Like a sauna with no air. Glad I was playing in it at that intensity.
 
You know fine well José isn't going to go to Anfield and play to your strengths. He's no Wenger. Still shocked at Arsene, that was pathetic today, from him as much as his players.

Anyway, it'll be similar to last year, but with a fully fit panel, we'll be much better equipped to execute the plan. Matic-Herrera-Pogba in midfield (not Pogba as an outlet 10), Lukaku leading the line & running the channels (not Zlatan dropping deep... Pogba was almost the highest forward in that game last season), with plenty of pace on the flanks.
 
Yeah, Lukaku who Lucas of all players didn't give a kick to and won every header against last year.

That's his perennial problem lid. Disappears every big game. Watching the Chelsea highlights there, and this is purely a personal opinion, I'm SO glad you couldn't get the Spaniard and ended up with Lukaku. Moratta would of given Utd a whole new dimension that wouldn't be good.

Hopefully, van Dijk will be here and up to speed by then.
 
Lukaku gives us a different dimension. Although no denying I would've taken Morata too. Most honest & unbiased Chelsea fans would tell you the same, they would've been happy with either.

Unfair to judge him in big games with Everton, who can be very negative, they have more DM's than I've had hot dinners.

Anthony, maybe so - but we're on a football manager forum, so you're probably going to see a lot of that.
 
Seen mumurings of Renato Sanchez too that would be a good signing for me. Gunna be a mad end to the window!

Agreed. Don't know if there's a genuine interest but I'd be all over that if there was given what Klopp can do for top young talent. I was real surprised at the reticence, to be kind, the Utd thread when he was linked a few weeks back.

The lads 18, moving to a completely new Country and culture and trying to break into a Munich side jam packed with top tier talent. Yet people are prepared to write him off on the back of a down first year. Completely ignoring all the massive hype in the same thread from the same people the previous summer off the back of his brilliant Euros when he was heavily linked again to Utd.

Don't get that logic at all. A year loan with a potential low first option written in for such potential ..... Where the heck is the downside to that?
 
Agreed. Don't know if there's a genuine interest but I'd be all over that if there was given what Klopp can do for top young talent. I was real surprised at the reticence, to be kind, the Utd thread when he was linked a few weeks back.

The lads 18, moving to a completely new Country and culture and trying to break into a Munich side jam packed with top tier talent. Yet people are prepared to write him off on the back of a down first year. Completely ignoring all the massive hype in the same thread from the same people the previous summer off the back of his brilliant Euros when he was heavily linked again to Utd.

Don't get that logic at all. A year loan with a potential low first option written in for such potential ..... Where the heck is the downside to that?

There wasn't any reticence. A loan to buy is a better option than 20m for a loan only for one year
 
Yeah, Lukaku who Lucas of all players didn't give a kick to and won every header against last year.

That's his perennial problem lid. Disappears every big game. Watching the Chelsea highlights there, and this is purely a personal opinion, I'm SO glad you couldn't get the Spaniard and ended up with Lukaku. Moratta would of given Utd a whole new dimension that wouldn't be good.

Hopefully, van Dijk will be here and up to speed by then.
Lukaku has scored 5 in 7 starts and four appearances off the bench vs Liverpool so he has a perfectly decent record
 
Can't wait for October 14.

If you're going to play as high as you have been, you're liable to get ripped to shreds at Anfield.

If you sit in your own area and go to spoil the game like last year, well, we have more speed and more options to open that up.

There's two teams playing and Liverpool have their own weakness; susceptible to pace at the back, poor at set pieces, and two keepers who are neither commanding or particularly good at saving long shots. 3 areas United are currently strong in
 
Lukaku has scored 5 in 11 vs Liverpool so he has a perfectly decent record

Was going to quote that very same stat. If anyone thinks thats disappearing, I can't take their opinions seriously.

A 1 in 2 record against any side is always good, let alone top 6 teams
 
Lukaku has scored 5 in 7 starts and four appearances off the bench vs Liverpool so he has a perfectly decent record

Two in one game. And his record against the top 6 over 30 plus games?

I'll save you the trouble. It's around 1 in 6.
 
Two in one game. And his record against the top 6 over 30 plus games?

I'll save you the trouble. It's around 1 in 6.
Playing for West Brom and Everton goals will be hard to come by against the top six as they will see very little of the ball and be penned back for most of the game
 
There wasn't any reticence. A loan to buy is a better option than 20m for a loan only for one year

There wasn't? Did you read the reactions from certain regular posters totally against the move? There was ironically only Zz all for it and championing him. (Present company excepted.).

I was being kind wording it like that. Just baffled me as I see no downside at all. Even if he's not playing a massive amount, you're getting to work with him up close every day and see for yourself if he's got what you require.
 
1 in 6 playing for sides who don't go forwards. Again still a solid record
 
There wasn't? Did you read the reactions from certain regular posters totally against the move? There was ironically only Zz all for it and championing him. (Present company excepted.).

I was being kind wording it like that. Just baffled me as I see no downside at all. Even if he's not playing a massive amount, you're getting to work with him up close every day and see for yourself if he's got what you require.

The fee was ridiculous for a year loan with no chance to sign him
 
Playing for West Brom and Everton goals will be hard to come by against the top six as they will see very little of the ball and be penned back for most of the game

That's a lame defence when it comes over so many games. Rh just tried throwing it up. To date, he's disappeared the big games. It just is what it is and one of the legit major knocks on him for all his talent.

But the last thing we need to do is get into a round of the worth of Lukaku. Particularly when it's this frigging muggy and I can't begin to hope to sleep.
 
Playing for West Brom and Everton goals will be hard to come by against the top six as they will see very little of the ball and be penned back for most of the game

Which is why it speaks volumes about how good his goal record his overall
 
That's a lame defence when it comes over so many games. Rh just tried throwing it up. To date, he's disappeared the big games. It just is what it is and one of the legit major knocks on him for all his talent.

But the last thing we need to do is get into a round of the worth of Lukaku. Particularly when it's this frigging muggy and I can't begin to hope to sleep.

It's only a lame defence if you honestly can't tell the difference between playing for a midtable side on the counter and side packed with title challenging quality who will play front foot more often.

And he still has 5 in 11 against Liverpool.

Or are you not a big game?
 
Thought I'd just check out his stats after Ninja's post, interesting, expected a lot of 1 in 8's or whatever against teams, the way the stereotype is thrown around...

He scored 4 goals in 5 home games against Liverpool.

He scored 3 goals in 5 home games against Manchester United.

He scored 2 goals in 5 home games against Manchester City.

It's the away games, when Everton either park the bus or get blew off the park, and don't offer him any support, is where he lacks goals against the big sides. It's not really a 'defence', just some perspective
 
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