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Scouseinthehouse said:
Frustratingly, I don't expect to see anything other than Mignolet retaining his place Boxing Day.

But the end is surely nearing. He's patently been looking for a way to get Karius in the team through the CL 2 keeper bollocks.

Mignolet is fast opening up that opportunity for him again.
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It made me mad and then fecking sad that we have had Mingo as our starting keeper for 5 ****** seasons now 5!!!. Its like a boom bust cycle with him. He has a howler people call for him to be dropped, he picks up his performances then its on to the next howler. Madness.
 
dilakh2 said:
It made me mad and then fecking sad that we have had Mingo as our starting keeper for 5 ****** seasons now 5!!!. Its like a boom bust cycle with him. He has a howler people call for him to be dropped, he picks up his performances then its on to the next howler. Madness.
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Key difference.

Put him behind Chelsea, City, United, ..... ****, as poor and utterly defensive as they are, let's include Burnley as they have one of the better goals against records, defence and the difference would be stark.

That falls on successive managers. Currently the mad German.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
You honestly thought we defended poorly there? Even taking account that mad 5 minutes? The two centre-halves were great all game. Gomez, the first goal aside (and I blame Mignolet as much there as Joe for not screaming out the danger of Sanchez on his blindside) had a good game. Good, if costly tonight, learning experience for Joe that you can't switch off for even a second back there. Robertson played well.

15 shots on target this side has allowed now the last 10 league games since the Tottenham debacle. They'd not conceded a goal from open play for 7 games before tonight. And at that only 2 penalties. Doubtless, they'll get ripped the media but the defensive side of things isn't half the problem many insinuate after crazy games like tonight.

Mad night. You're coming out of the ground there thinking your defenders have all played real well. But then there's the buffoon behind them ..... Can't legislate for him throwing the game away.
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A goalkeeper is part of a defence and he had a poor day, also a mistake leading to a goal and not closing down a guy known for having a powerful long range shot on him isn't the best. So yeah overall I would call it not a good day for them, their job is to keep out goals and they failed.

Watford was opening day, and included a goal that should never of stood. So there is that. As shambolic as it was. City you can ignore straight off the bounce as that ceased being a game when John Moss decided to intervein. Tottenham is the one real shocker where L'pool were horrid from front to back. And tonight the goalkeeper is at fault ******* awfully for two of the goals.
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The watford goal is fine the ball isn't going forward until it hits a liverpool player and you can't be offside if the ball isn't being played forwards, also a keeper's mistake shows up in the final score like every other type of goal its not better to be conceding them like that
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Key difference.

Put him behind Chelsea, City, United, ..... ****, as poor and utterly defensive as they are, let's include Burnley as they have one of the better goals against records, defence and the difference would be stark.

That falls on successive managers. Currently the mad German.
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Burnley were still able to get good defensive displays with Nick Pope who played 0 games last season and was playing in League 2 in 2015 and yet they kept up a very good defensive season despite a keeper who is almost certainly worse than Mingolet starting and can't have inspired much faith in his team mates at the beginning of his run
 
Its Liverpool, when u hear they conceded everyone natural react is blaming their defense, even if not the case...

I think I have mentioned it earlier this season or even last, but so many goals have started from midfield. The space Arsenal had in mid, no one closing down and letting them pass and run. Hendo loss was big, but even he cant shield and control the mid so well. Ox money should have spent on some workhorse mid and rotate his spot with Solanke and Wilson or even Kent.

Fact of the day:
Since Klopp took charge, Liverpool have lost 43 points in the league from winning positions. The most of any team in Europe
 
ninjaskill said:
Burnley were still able to get good defensive displays with Nick Pope who played 0 games last season and was playing in League 2 in 2015 and yet they kept up a very good defensive season despite a keeper who is almost certainly worse than Mingolet starting and can't have inspired much faith in his team mates at the beginning of his run
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Claiming there was nottin' wrong with the Watford third was jaw-dropping enough, but to then follow it with the bolded .....

To be kind would be to say you're not watching either. To be truthful would be that agenda is well and truly set.

Bujakaa92 said:
Its Liverpool, when u hear they conceded everyone natural react is blaming their defense, even if not the case...
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Talking of set agenda's, there's one in glorious technicolour.

Exactly the point about media perception. Repeat it enough times, it sticks in the conciseness.
 
Even at 2-1 we had control. Keeper is the one position that breeds confidence in the team, especially defensively. When you have no faith in your GK of course its going to cause jitteriness in the whole side, last night shows that. Arsenal battered Utd yet lost due to De gea. We batter Arsenal but drop two points because of our GK. Hmmm.
 
Didn't realize De Gea scored a hat trick away to the Emirates :P
 
RhQQ said:
Didn't realize De Gea scored a hat trick away to the Emirates :P
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You mightve won 3-1 but Arsenal were on top during a crucial period in the game that could and should have levelled the score. However your keeper kept you in the game but ours during 10 mins of madness lets 3 shots fly past him, and bare in mind Arsenal only had 4 shots on target the whole ****** game. I feel like I'm going mad here watching Mignolet **** up even the basics of what to do as a GK.
 
"Jurgen Klopp & Liverpool have dropped 43 points from winning positions since the German Manager joined the club, which is more points dropped than any other club in Europe."
 
dilakh2 said:
You mightve won 3-1 but Arsenal were on top during a crucial period in the game that could and should have levelled the score. However your keeper kept you in the game but ours during 10 mins of madness lets 3 shots fly past him, and bare in mind Arsenal only had 4 shots on target the whole ****** game. I feel like I'm going mad here watching Mignolet **** up even the basics of what to do as a GK.
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Yeah, Arsenal were the true winner that game. A moral winner. Thats what matters :D
 
Its hard to even criticize Klopp given that Salah is proving to be the best transfer since Torres, but my God it does get boring to even discuss the defensive issues. The goalkeeper problem has been ongoing ever since Reina left, that's effin half a decade.
 
Tyton said:
Its hard to even criticize Klopp given that Salah is proving to be the best transfer since Torres, but my God it does get boring to even discuss the defensive issues. The goalkeeper problem has been ongoing ever since Reina left, that's effin half a decade.
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Bought where you were strongest anyway, addressed nothing.
 
Strongest? Like, Sadio Mané and NOTHING else strong before Mo and Alex?

That kind of 'strongest?'
 
Firmino, Origi, Sturrige, Ings, Mane, Coutinho.

yes that forward line, with the "no one has scored more goals than us since Klopp came in, yada yada yadda'

but still with a dodgy keeper, and defence, So you bought Salah & Solenke. So yes you addressed where you were strongest.
 
Oh I just love another clubs fans trying to rewrite a situation.

Again, outside of Sadio Mané, who else was there last year with that difference-making speed in behind. Or who could play wide for that matter? Did you miss the massive drop-off when Sadio went first to the AFCON and then got done the Derby and missed the last 10 or so last year? That was one of the neediest areas that needed strengthening this past summer. And was.

And that's before you even get into the van Dijk fiasco which would of strengthened centre-half. Or Clyne going down and taking away Joe Gomez from the position.
 
Must say, not been impressed with Van Dijk this season. Switches off defensively, loses concentration, loses runners etc.

Looks half the player I saw live 5-6 times last season. Is he just half trying? Said this to my mate (Liverpool fan) and he was like "been ******* telling people that all along" now I am questioning my own judgement of him. Had him in the borderline WC category, please don't tell me he's a Dutch version of Luiz; a fancy player who looks better than he is from a defensive perspective in a more rigid system, and I'm going to look a mug for singing his praises... I'm **** at judging CBs man. Genuinely thought Smalling turned a corner under LVG ffs.
 
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