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Lol nope, the guys that aren’t sold on Fabinho are around my age. The guy that said Gerrard>Souness listens to matches on the radio XDin
 
This is the worst we have played all season. Well done to Red Star but we wouldnt have scored even if we played till midnight.
 
I guess today was the return of Lallana's signature move. Spinning on the same spot doing 50 Cryuff turns won't cut it anymore. He was so off the pace it was terrible to watch.
 
“In training, the sessions are led by Zeljko Buvac and Klopp gives him freedom to decide what tactics to employ. Then there’s Peter Krawietz, who does most of the strategy. But Klopp is emotional, he can’t just stand there watching."

Interesting.
 
RhQQ said:
“In training, the sessions are led by Zeljko Buvac and Klopp gives him freedom to decide what tactics to employ. Then there’s Peter Krawietz, who does most of the strategy. But Klopp is emotional, he can’t just stand there watching."

Interesting.
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How? hes on leave this season.
 
Continuing the conversation of Klopp's staff the biggest influence has to be Andreas Konmayer. He is the reason why there has been no all-out press and a more reserved approach this season. Will defo help us in the long run as the squad or first 11 won't be burnt out come springtime.
 
wkdsoul said:
How? hes on leave this season.
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Quote from last season. Post trying to highlight how vital he was. LFC definitely haven't been the same since he's left, although results without performances this season are somewhat brushing that under the carpet. Not taking anything away from Klopp, but maybe Mr Buvac was the brains behind it.
 
dilakh2 said:
Continuing the conversation of Klopp's staff the biggest influence has to be Andreas Konmayer. He is the reason why there has been no all-out press and a more reserved approach this season. Will defo help us in the long run as the squad or first 11 won't be burnt out come springtime.
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It's boring though, as without that chaotic, high energy, you haven't exactly got Chelsea/City's possession based tiki-taka in your locker. Prefer the way you played last season. Not giving anyone a seconds peace, going at them hard. We'll see over time if you're right & your reduction in pressing will indeed prove beneficial.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Making some big assumptions there d.
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You would have to be very very very naive to think Buvac is coming back mate. This oh he left for personal reasons is just cover, he and Klopp have had falling outs before but not on this level. Its common knowledge the level of significant input Konmayer has on Klopp, Konmayer is not only a very good in the fitness side but he just like Pako( for Rafa in case you forgot) is well versed in football coaching.
 
RhQQ said:
It's boring though, as without that chaotic, high energy, you haven't exactly got Chelsea/City's possession based tiki-taka in your locker. Prefer the way you played last season. Not giving anyone a seconds peace, going at them hard. We'll see over time if you're right & your reduction in pressing will indeed prove beneficial.
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Its not sustainable though and I understand why Klopp has gone for it this way. You have players coming back from a world cup year plus a shortened preseason and the pressure of having to challenge City and co. without losing pace come January. We will see if it works out for us come spring time.
 
dilakh2 said:
Its not sustainable though and I understand why Klopp has gone for it this way. You have players coming back from a world cup year plus a shortened preseason and the pressure of having to challenge City and co. without losing pace come January. We will see if it works out for us come spring time.
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Not quite sure if this way is sustainable either tbh, if we're being real it's a little bit of a flattering unbeaten run. Mahrez missed pen & Sturridge corker vs. Chelsea away from sitting in 6th a couple ahead of Howe's Bournemouth on different days (I know if's & but's can be used in most matches, but those particular incidents were crucial & very late).

Take the heavy pressing out of it, you're just a direct team, and that isn't a slight, it's just your heavy pressing is an art. That's what you're experts at. To abandon/soften it might mean you're a bit fresher coming from midweek to weekend, but what use is that anyway when you're purposely not performing your natural A game?
 
dilakh2 said:
You would have to be very very very naive to think Buvac is coming back mate. This oh he left for personal reasons is just cover, he and Klopp have had falling outs before but not on this level. Its common knowledge the level of significant input Konmayer has on Klopp, Konmayer is not only a very good in the fitness side but he just like Pako( for Rafa in case you forgot) is well versed in football coaching.
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I was refering to you putting the change from the second half of last season and a lack of intense pressing on the fitness coach.

Along with Buvac ‘supposedly’ leaving as his inout leasoned.
 
RhQQ said:
Not quite sure if this way is sustainable either tbh, if we're being real it's a little bit of a flattering unbeaten run. Mahrez missed pen & Sturridge corker vs. Chelsea away from sitting in 6th a couple ahead of Howe's Bournemouth on different days (I know if's & but's can be used in most matches, but those particular incidents were crucial & very late).

Take the heavy pressing out of it, you're just a direct team, and that isn't a slight, it's just your heavy pressing is an art. That's what you're experts at. To abandon/soften it might mean you're a bit fresher coming from midweek to weekend, but what use is that anyway when you're purposely not performing your natural A game?
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I'd agree with you but now we have an actual first team that can dominate matches and not rely on one or two players to show up and perform. I think to say we're just a pressing team is a bit far off, you think we play 90 mins of heavy all out pressing against the teams outside the top 6. Majority of games we are the side that has the most possession especially at Anfield. Do you really need to be constantly playing your natural A game when you have a spine of Becker, Van Dijk, plus the front three? I don't really think so. The reason for us being out of sorts is a Klopp constantly changing the midfield and trying to get Fabinho and Keita etc... up to speed.
 
Like you a lot Rh so I’m giving the ‘flatering’ line bunkum the respect it deserves and miving on.

You do need to watch us more closely and understand the continuing evolution of this side though reading some of your comments of late though bud.

Moving on .....
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
I was refering to you putting the change from the second half of last season and a lack of intense pressing on the fitness coach.

Along with Buvac ‘supposedly’ leaving as his inout leasoned.
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All I'm saying is that Kornmayer has a significant input on squad rotation etc... plus he is also a very good football coach. Heavy metal football is not sustainable over a whole season hence why we struggled the season before last after topping the table during Christmas if my memory is good. I don't get your sentence about Buvac but heck even Klopp last night confirmed he isn't even contact with him when a question was put forward to him.
 
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