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I both appreciate and don't disagree with the sentiment. The main issue is the scandalous prices the sponsors have priced the game at for the locals. Which is sadly the vicious circle of the business of football period in this era. To attract the two major players to your Country, you need to pay them handsomely. So that money has to be recouped somehow. (Related- It broke just at the end of last week of Fulham charging their supporters up to £100 on the opening day against L'pool in an absolutely disgraceful move through a cost of living crisis.). I'd rather we never went on tours to the other side of the World selfishly speaking. But I understand why the club has to.

But L'pool- United will NEVER become 'just another game.'

I'll wager Tuesday, even accounting for it being so soon into pre-season, with both clubs just back a week/ fortnight respectively, will be the most intense game either club plays before the proper stuff starts. And for the mad support both clubs have out in that part of the World, the chance to see this game, albeit in 'friendly' form, couldn't be better for them if you asked them.
Even players were swapping kits after the game. It was "just another game".
 
Even players were swapping kits after the game. It was "just another game".

The more you try justify the silly original point that I think a whopping 4th friendly between the two giants since the 1930's is in danger of turning L'pool- Utd into 'just another game', isn't making it such mate.

But at least you're past the equally silly hissy fit from the other day so that's good. 🍻
 
Watched the game last night after the frustrating afternoon time difference.

The result aside, which doesn't matter at all in exhibition kick arounds, al- in-all, an enjoyable and good first run-out.

36 players used (Side note- Is that a record for one team in a friendly? 🤷🏼‍♂️) ..... No injuries ..... Some great showings from kids doing themselves no harm at all ..... Some real hard work into the legs in oppressive conditions ..... Post hit 3 times and countless other excellent chances created that on another day, further into pre-season when sharpness and rhythm is there, would have been taken. Just outdone the other end with individual errors. Which considering the majority only returned on this tour and have had a handful of sessions, is to be expected early doors.

As anticipated, after it worked so well early last pre-season to slowly build fitness back up, bar the goalies playing a half each, three completely different sides in 30 minute periods where you go flat out with everything you have. I really like that concept rather than players becoming goosed at the end of the half/ into the second and games petering out into bore fest's late on.

From the first group, only Phillips had a poor outing. Which is frustrating as every bit of game time is an important shop window for him. With Oxo-Chambo in the same shop window doing his rep. no harm. Great showing form the youth. Carvalho, Elliott and Morton in particular. Mbaya really good going forward too. Bad mistake for the opener but lest we forget he's just 17. And a natural midfielder still learning a fullback role he's transitioned really nicely into over the last season or so.

Pretty much total domination without scoring, with two messy mistakes leading to being 2 down against the run of play.

The 2nd group was a mess with more defensive mistakes. Only Curtis really did his cause no harm.

And then the third group returned to more or less complete domination for the last half hour with some great chances and Mo hitting the post. Adrián had next to nothing to do all half bar picking the ball out of the net after a break when Ibou lost possession and the middle was open for the counter.

A story of individual mistakes and missed chances that on another day reaps 4 or more goals .(I think the xG was 1.7- 1.5 in a 4-0 loss.).

More positives than negatives with the key objective of intense work into the legs ticked off after the earlier morning and afternoon work.

Roll on Friday and the third intense, extended training session of that day against Palace in Singapore.

After not feeling like I ever wanted to again after the trauma of Paris (And roll on the French Senates findings this morning and expected exoneration. If not a legacy biding one), it's great to watch the Reds play games of football again.
 

Really interesting loan this that again highlights just how highly our staff think of the Portuguese league.

And to throw Owen out to a top European league, on the back of giving him a 5-year extension this time last year in the Austrian pre-season camp, shows just how highly one of the 23’s top performers is rated at the Axa.

One of our youngsters who has a REAL chance of sticking long term here, it’ll be fun to see how his development continues in what looks the perfect league fit for a very technical, attacking full back.
 

Superb. Absolutely made up for a really solid young pro to finally start his career in earnest.

All the best mate. The 21's will miss your leadership. But your career comes first and beyond time it got started.
 
The more you try justify the silly original point that I think a whopping 4th friendly between the two giants since the 1930's is in danger of turning L'pool- Utd into 'just another game', isn't making it such mate.

But at least you're past the equally silly hissy fit from the other day so that's good. 🍻
No, that game was 'just another game'. League/cup games are different.
 


This, along with the positive fan representation and other good officials added to the UEFA enquiry (Which I think is due to publish its findings in September), is a very good start. But that's all this is. It now needs to be followed up with a full, clear and concise apology from the French authorities, not just for their own failings but also for the false narrative and blatant lies they told to deflect the blame onto the innocent victims of the traumatic horror of the 2022 CL Final. Us. Liverpool and Real Madrid supporters. And the Ministers that blatantly lied really do need to be held accountable for that and punished.

Future safety should be paramount and lessons learned and they can't be in France so long as those perpetuating the blatant lies remain in their positions.

 
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Ugh. I know, all big business is invariably murky somewhere along the line. It's just never sat well with me personally, at all, that our major sponsor has been seriously sanctioned for money laundering. With some very unsavoury big links to moving terrorist organisation money around. Breaching sanctions in known hotspots around the World for that activity.

So I get that it's nigh on impossible to find a major player who's got a 'whiter-than-white' history. And the financial rewards are obviously great for the club.

It's just hard for me to, say, straight faced, (rightly) have a go at City or Newcastle fans over their owners when we're taking major money form a heavily sanctioned company against those allegations.

It is what it is but I won't lie I don't like our partnership with them one bit.
 
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