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No real surprise given Pep's always picked the most financially dominant clubs in a Country everywhere he's been, but still, props to Wigan again.


Kristan Heneage
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I'm struggling to find a single defeat to a team in a lower division for Pep Guardiola. Looks like Wigan are the first in a little over a decade long career.

9:54 PM - Feb 19, 2018



Not like managing in Germany and Spain with all the P easy games you can coast through huh Pep?

 
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woolly said:
I wonder if he would do so well at a club like Wigan, probably not but we will never know as he has a reputation now for doing well in which ever country he is managing in. Like you say Scouse he's always managed at the top clubs with the most money which is usually an easier task for anyone (Moyes excepted of course).
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TBF, he has been a real innovative coach who's taken the game forward so I wouldn't really question his teaching. But the fact remains he's gone to the financial powers in every Country he's been. And has used that to the max to ensure that domination

Mourinho's another one who's been very savvy in choosing the dominant, financial clubs in most every Country he's been. As soon as it's not working, it's 'I need even more mega money to spend to compete with City.' I'd love to be a journo. Be like 'So what you're saying mate is you don't trust your own coaching ability and can only succeed if you buy the very best?'

He's hated us since we flat out turned him down for Rafa after he came cap in hand with his agent wanting the job after Porto but it begs the question just how his career would have gone without the real top money to splash even back then?
 
You know I'm not Jose's biggest fan but there's no doubt he was always going to be a bracket 1 manager. He won a CL with Porto ffs. Plenty of the top managers aren't "innovative"; Carlo, Allegri, Conte, could even argue Sir Alex (played attacking football, but there was no scientific approach behind it).

Also, seen plenty of pragmatic coaches who if you give him any sort of money, they crumble. He's not some Portuguese Tony Pulis who'd be nothing without money, he worked his **** off to get where he is now, even if it's not where I want him to be at the end of the season :P

A pragmatist, a villain of the game, a downright **** - whatever you wish to call him. A top manager, you can't deny him of.
 
Don't believe anyone said he wasn't a top manager there or was that just a general point?

Although if you want to get into it I'd distinguish managing from flat out coaching/ teaching there between coaches like Pep and managers like Mourinho. And that's not to take away or diminish the achievements of either or to say one can't coach.
 
FWIW, Ferguson's up there on a plateau with Paisley as the best managers this Country, and arguably any other, has ever seen. Their respective success is unparalleled.

But was he a great coach? His tactics left a lot to be desired for years. But he understood this league and just how poor it was/ is defensively and the simple mantra that if you attack and score goals, 9 times out of 10 you win games of football here. Along with his biggest trait, understanding people and being able to motivate them to levels above what a lot should ever have achieved. He surrounded himself with very good coaches he could rely on to delegate to whilst he took care with running the whole club to masterful levels.

Great managers aren't necessarily great coaches.
 
Talking managers, I just recently re-watched this which is one of the greatest documentaries about football ever, about three great, great MEN, not just football men, by one of the greatest sports journalists ever. Mad to think they all came from such a small area in the West of Scotland.

[video=youtube;53TaTp5N4sw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53TaTp5N4sw&feature=share[/video]

All three episodes cut down into segments, all follow on. WELL worth anyone's time.
 
On documentary subject (sry fro offtopci or if it is posted here).
Juventus doc started.

[video=youtube;VYAFpdgH8oo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYAFpdgH8oo[/video]
 
Ferguson was far more tactically astute than given credit for. His latter half of his career was all tactical. Culminating in that 2006-2009 United side, which was genuinely one of the best sides of its generation
 
woolly said:
That little area of Scotland has also produced a fair few decent players as well, oh and don't forget Billy McNeill the Celtic European Cup winning Captain and sometime Man City, Aston Villa, Aberdeen and Celtic manager is also from there.
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That Celtic side he captained to Britains first European Cup glory ..... all but one of the 15 born within a 10-mile radius of Parkhead.

Absolutely ridiculous and so far removed from today's game it's mindblowing when you think about it.
 
Talking about Celtic and British managers.

Would you consider Rodgers the best British manager currently?
Would love him to get another shot in PL, but dont know even where to see. Maybe Arsenal, but it would be long shot.
Some decent LaLiga team would be also nice.
 
Vanjagl said:
Apparently:

Sam Lee
✔@Sammy_Goal


Sergio Aguero in the clear over Wigan pitch fracas. No punishment from the FA.
5:08 PM - Feb 20, 2018



Dunno what to say, he pushed the ref and the fan, and then tried to hit him. Though that fan had it coming for being an ***.
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Honestly will not be surprised if City don’t recieve any punishment! Everyone should receive some sort of punishment!
 
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