The Manchester United Thread

There is a meeting scheduled between Alejandro Garnacho’s agent and #mufc in the coming weeks to seal a new long term contract @FabrizioRamano
 
Vanjagl said:
As far as I know, none.
However, he brought in half a dozen of people he used to work with.
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Close mate ..... Less than half of that half a dozen.

The two, now one, who have been with him since he stepped into his first manager role at Mainz. He won't sign anything unless they get upped too.

He did want Götze, who he still dotes on, his first summer but he madly wanted all sorts of guarantees so we quickly turned to Mané which worked out pretty well.
 
Legend Incredible said:
How many Dortmund players has Klopp signed from Dortmund?
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I love when Jürgen gets held up for new managers. The PE teacher having a better win ratio or whatever the F it was over his first 50 games in charge, thus making him more successful, was a classic that gave many hours of hilarity haha.

But TBF, you can understand why ten Hag is only looking at what he knows. If you'd of done this the right way and let Wreck-It Ralph build it properly like what he was hired for, you'd have doubtless of got everyone in and been set for next weekend already. But you didn't, and as ten Hag had no interest in what Utd had planned transfer wise, and there being no competent DoF to speak of (failed blues don't count), he was left in a bit of a pickle wasn't he? He's not got vast European knowledge. Why would he? He's a coach. Ajax have the structure in place to take care of that. So with so little time before the start of the season, he's naturally going to return to what he knows and trusts in the Netherlands. And Ajax in particular.

I wouldn't skit him for that. (Unless it's happening in year two if he's still here. Then there'd be an issue.). He's just trying to make the best out of the carnage everyone above him is continue gn to preside over.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Close mate ..... Less than half of that half a dozen.

The two, now one, who have been with him since he stepped into his first manager role at Mainz. He won't sign anything unless they get upped too.

He did want Götze, who he still dotes on, his first summer but he madly wanted all sorts of guarantees so we quickly turned to Mané which worked out pretty well.
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Peter Krawietz - Mainz and BVB
Željko Buvač - BVB
Andreas Schlumberger - BVB
Christopher Rohrbeck - Mainz

plus 2 more Germans who he was familiar with.


Managers are bringing people they know and trust. Shocker. Absolute shocker!
 
Vanjagl said:
Peter Krawietz - Mainz and BVB
Željko Buvač - BVB
Andreas Schlumberger - BVB
Christopher Rohrbeck - Mainz

plus 2 more Germans who he was familiar with.


Managers are bringing people they know and trust. Shocker. Absolute shocker!
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We are talking about when he took over.

Let's not confuse the issue almost 7 years in.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
We are talking about when he took over.

Let's not confuse the issue.
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Still, point stays the same. He's bringing in people he trusts. United structure is an outdated mess, you lot have a throw in specialist, United just recently got an sport psychologist. He's moving the pieces, but like you said ( at least thats how I got it), he needs help from those above him. Without competent help, he's going to fail.
 
Sound. As I said, I understand ten Hag right now raiding the only market he knows.

But it's far from 'Dortmund 2.0' at Anfield when there's only 3 crossovers from BVB in 7 seasons. And the only ones direct from Dortmund are the two (now one) who came with him and have been with him since the very start at Mainz.

Next summer will be our first on field signing from there.

I think it's been a very conscious decision from him not to take the easy route and raid his former club given how many friends he has in Dortmund and how much that club still means to him.
 
Unlike Liverpool, Uniteds scouting department is well behind and in need of a rework. Some stuff are changing, but is it enough? We'll know soon enough. No wonder United are going for "his" targets because they do not know better. Its a fresh start for them too.

I feel this is the most important year since Sir Alex left. Because if United do not get the fundamentals right, then nothing will change till the Glazers leave. And their ownership reek of failure - for the fans. Not for their pockets.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
But TBF, you can understand why ten Hag is only looking at what he knows. If you'd of done this the right way and let Wreck-It Ralph build it properly like what he was hired for, you'd have doubtless of got everyone in and been set for next weekend already. But you didn't, and as ten Hag had no interest in what Utd had planned transfer wise, and there being no competent DoF to speak of (failed blues don't count), he was left in a bit of a pickle wasn't he? He's not got vast European knowledge. Why would he? He's a coach. Ajax have the structure in place to take care of that. So with so little time before the start of the season, he's naturally going to return to what he knows and trusts in the Netherlands. And Ajax in particular.
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Can’t blame him considering when he mentioned he needed a left footed center half, the best out scouts could recommend was Pau Torres whom is basically a Spanish Victor Lindelof. Imagine being known for playing a high line and the best your scouting department could recommend is a player that has only ever been good in an ultra defensive Villarreal side. He’s been relatively average for the Spanish NT as well. I’d do my own scouting in his position if that’s what they came up with.

Reminds me of the comment you made about people within the club pulling different directions. At least if we’re signing the players he picks, it’s pulling just one direction, albeit unproven.
 
Well, If this was FM I'd start building the team from the back and count on Cristiano bailing me out with 30 goals for a year or two, while I put other pieces into place. But that plan kinda went up in smoke when boy wonder threw a tantrum.
 
Legend Incredible said:
Can’t blame him considering when he mentioned he needed a left footed center half, the best out scouts could recommend was Pau Torres whom is basically a Spanish Victor Lindelof. Imagine being known for playing a high line and the best your scouting department could recommend is a player that has only ever been good in an ultra defensive Villarreal side. He’s been relatively average for the Spanish NT as well. I’d do my own scouting in his position if that’s what they came up with.

Reminds me of the comment you made about people within the club pulling different directions. At least if we’re signing the players he picks, it’s pulling just one direction, albeit unproven.
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It would be mate if you didn't have Woodward and Judge MK2 F up all his main targets and yet another windiow. 🤦🏼‍♂️

Honestly, after the cringe embarrassment of the boozer, if, after they missed his top forward and CH targets, you come out of this month without his top winger and midfield targets, the later they've F the whole window up pandering to like some fella' that's been jibbed by his bird but just won't accept it and is trying everything to get her back and making a complete *** of himself in the process, after categorically saying the money was there for all the managers targets, Arnold needs binning on the spot. And Murtogh should be on proper dodgy ground and a very short leash going forward too. How the pair would ever live down being photographed in Barcelona to box things off Christ only knows but their reps would ba shot to ****.

If you didn't know better you'd think they were setting ten Hag up to fail.

Oh an amusing one for you by the way. Some City lads in the pub Sat'day, who were sound fella's to be fair, saying 'at least we can both laugh our bollocks off at Utd and share that together' was highly amusing. Like lads, try as hard as you want, but you'll NEVER even scratch the surface with us when it comes to a rivalry like we'll always have with Utd. You're a F nothing club who's big in Stockport and Oldham in comparison. The only F rivalry you have with L'pool right now is a rivalry of circumstance. Outside of that, we wouldn't give you a second glance. Utd could be rock bottom of league two and playing us in the cup and it would still be the biggest and most watched game of the season.
 
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Lovely news. The clubs rebuild takes another good step!

Adam Crafton

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Aug 2, 2022
Exclusive: #MUFC hire their first head of women’s football. Polly Bancroft to join from Brighton, upon the completion of her notice period. She will work across recruitment, logistics, operations & contracts. Will report to football director John Murtough
 
Mate sent me this from yesterday that's a boss 50 minute or so listen on a new book on L'pool- Utd. From around 1:04:00 in.

Cracking listen and a book that's now high on my list. Yers can F right off trying to claim YNWA though!

www.bbc.co.uk

Nihal Arthanayake - 01/08/2022 - BBC Sounds

Nihal Arthanayake presents an afternoon of news, big name interviews and conversation.
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@samuelluckhurst

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If Ronaldo stays he is not going to loom over the United manager as he did last season. Ten Hag is communicating concisely and clear from observing him and speaking to players he is not fazed by the dressing room. Authority has been restored to #mufc manager's role.
 
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