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Asking for a bit too much there mate! No chance
No wonder Liverpool club official channel is History TV.
To be ****** I'd rather watch the History channel than our abomination of a club channel that is LFC TV. Our presenters are terrible. You can see they've tried to stick with scousers for the entire production but **** me that women presenter is so annoying.
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In my opinion what makes a big club is a combination of things like: History of winning multiple trophies domestic and European over many years, dominate era, size of club stadium, average attendances, size of how many fan globally and finally size of club bank balance. Of course you could include many more things, but those one's I've mentioned are the most important one's.
So in my opinion both United and Liverpool are big clubs. Chelsea and Manchester City are yet to write their history yet in multiple trophy winning in domestic or European history. And has not dominated an era yet. You throw Arsenal in that category as well.
So in my opinion both United and Liverpool are big clubs. Chelsea and Manchester City are yet to write their history yet in multiple trophy winning in domestic or European history. And has not dominated an era yet. You throw Arsenal in that category as well.
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Can we go back to those days? Those days where fun.
.Then some no-mark called Robins went and ruined that down at Forest one cold Sunday afternoon in early January.
I WILL catch up with him some day.
There WILL be blood! (6).
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Yeah, Suness would be on the 'to do' list. But he scares me even now so I'll swerve him lol. Hardest player I ever saw live. (One particularly memorable European Cup semi against Bucharest springs to mind when he got 'revenge' on a Romanian who'd raked his studs down the back of Kenny's legs and put him out by getting between him and the lino on the Kemmy touchline and breaking the fella's jaw. Taking care of your own and all that. Used to be fun when your thug Norman and he went into battle haha.). Probably the best captain/ leader we've ever had. Complete, World Class midfielder. Just an absolute ****house as a person. The front page of the Scum article will NEVER be forgotten!
Evo gets a pass as there was/ is no more passionate red. He just was too nice and let them get away with too much. Travesty that group didn't win what it should of.
But this is the wrong thread for all this. The natives will be complaining.
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By all accounts every man and his dog has Chelsea as being the last one you'll have to suffer through. Seem's he's setting himself up to walk under his terms. Has to be in control until the last.
The question is where do you turn from there? Surely not Giggs? But then I'd be with anyone not wanting Morinho if I were you.
Gonna' be an interesting start to 2016 that's for sure.
Well, not quite. Seems pretty clear to me that he caved under pressure, either from the fans or maybe the board, to play more open football. Which ironically resulted in him losing a lot more credibility than when he was in full grind mode.
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Absolutely. All things being equal he'd lurch you from one disaster to the next.
As far as ex-players go, there's only possibly Neville in the future, although he still has it all to prove; and if you could swallow your pride that many have with him and Citeh, Useless. Sorry, Mark Hughes. Old habits die hard.
. He's taking Stoke on another level and they're playing far better football and have far better prospects than under that dinosaur Pulis. Though I still can't believe you're not going all out for Pep behind the scenes.
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I was more alluding to him thinking he'd be in control of his own leaving that way rather than getting the sack; but has there really been that big a difference of late? I see the arguments in here both ways. But when you've had, what was it, 7 shots on goal the last 4 home games that's saying very little. Just how frigging bad was it before if that's opening up?
Defensive injuries appear to have done him more than anything. Playing that way and relying on the solid defence is all well and good. But when that breaks down, and you aren't attacking and scoring goals the other end; it all goes to **** quick. Real false way to build your side.
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Defense became weaker with Schneiderlin injury. He should be starting every game, him and Schweinsteiger in the midfield.
Actually, I'm pretty sure Giggs will take over as careaker for a week or two, while they sort out the new guy.
The logistics of replacing a manager at this time of year are a nightmare. The board and the higher ups probably don't even come back to work until January. There's also games every other day, and you need to give the new guy at least few gameless days to prepare, else you set him up to failure right from the start.
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Blancs an interesting shout. Experienced. Respected ex player who knows the club. Did excellent at Bordeaux as you noted. Hadn't even considered him.
Yeah, with you and I think zz it was as regards Pep. Not to take away anything he's achieved, but he'd be of been hard pressed to fail if we're honest. Barca was the picture perfect first role. More or less already built. He had total respect through the club. And straight up I'd fancy anyone off this forum's chances of success in Germany with Bayern. Honest to God. You'd have to be incredibly bad to not succeed domestically there. Akin to Celtic at present in Scotland. But he's not managed to do it on the biggest stage of all with them.
I'd be very interested to see what he'd be like if he had to build a club. And with Utd being in transition and still needing a fair bit of squad work as you alluded to, along with him being (as yet) completely unproven in England, I think it's a fair point to question whether it'd be as slam dunk a move as many think.
All that said, as he's, on paper at least, the best out there, I wouldn't expect Utd to be going all out as a first choice for anyone else.
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Hey, you've nearly got through a day without an embarrassing display on a football field.
That's exciting right? Baby steps.
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So guys...quick fire question...should we lose to Chelsea, do you see Louis van gaal staying any longer?
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My only issue with Jose is a that he is a shithouse. The whole long term manager thing doesn't matter. because United won't regard him as one. There is a battle waging in the boardrooms that definitely want's one of the 92 to be good enough to be in charge. Right now they probably have their eyes on the wrong member. The best placed ones are in Spain. Jose would have one job: stop the rot and win trophies. He'll have to play the youth, because there are so **** many of them, and he needs United as much as United needs him.
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Any feeling there's maybe a conflicted battle in Utd's boardroom over Jose right now? Thinking specifically Sir Bobby and anyone on his side. We know he's a diplomat and not one to rock the board. But we also know he'll stand up for what he believes are the clubs best interest. And he's never had Morinho down as being in that to say the least.