The Manchester United Thread

[djs1]

I think we would all agree that we have a fantastic squad,some great players.However,there are question marks over whether jose is/will be getting the most out of them and theres no doubt this window has been very underwhelming and very dissapointing.I know fees are inflated but a couple of key signings COULD be the difference between success and failure.

as a united fan for 35 years success to me is winning end of.
this league is getting stronger and there are few teams in danger of falling down the pecking order,maybe utd could be one?Im honestly not trying to be negative but thats how i see it.

 

[Mike.]

We'll learn a lot tomorrow about state of our squad players and how they can perform this season against Leicester. There will be no Matic to protect back four so big responsibility on midfield that starts tomorrow. See how Bailly and Lidelof can perform together, such a key partnership for our season ambitions. Also we will be able to see what Pereira/Fred can do and our fullbacks especially Shaw.

It will take at least half a dozen games before we start to know what we're made of. But still a huge opportunity for players, and manager, to lay down a marker.

 

[djs1]

It will take at least half a dozen games before we start to know what we're made of. But still a huge opportunity for players, and manager, to lay down a marker.

yeah the world cup means it will take a while for the dust to settle.no idea what condition those players came back in.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Expect a few that came back late to make themselves available.

 

[djs1]

how do you guys feel about the transfer dealings?Unorganised and incompetent on woodwards part or simply refusing to back jose and get the signings he wanted?.Yes those players would have made us better no doubt but in the long term? pretty much all those targets are 29/30........

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Obviously not the best window. Everyone is to blame except Jose imo. Just a shame Jose chose alleged targets from clubs that were gonna be shut to deal with.

Not fussed either way! Just looking forward to the season now. We have the manager andcplayers to be a major threat!

 

[djs1]

Obviously not the best window. Everyone is to blame except Jose imo. Just a shame Jose chose alleged targets from clubs that were gonna be shut to deal with.

Not fussed either way! Just looking forward to the season now. We have the manager andcplayers to be a major threat!

absolutely we do.I just wonder how jose must feel at missing out on the ones he wanted and how he views the boards efforts to deliver

 

[steveorobbo]

how do you guys feel about the transfer dealings?Unorganised and incompetent on woodwards part or simply refusing to back jose and get the signings he wanted?.Yes those players would have made us better no doubt but in the long term? pretty much all those targets are 29/30........

As good as he is at the business side, he really should be kept away from the footballing side. How many new sponsorships have we announced since Jose gave him his list of players? He cant focus on the business and sign players at the same time. We need a director of football to handle signings and outgoings. Even the players he's sold we have practically given away over the years compared to what other clubs are getting for similar or worse players. I think there is only Blind where we can be happy with what we have got back.

But as long as we keep getting top 4 or winning trophies the board will be happy with what is going on and happy with the money Ed is bringing in. If somebody like Mourinho doesn't even have enough influence for the board to take note and get the players in then it would be stupid to think another manager coming in would suddenly mean more transfers.

Unfortunately if things go **** up it will be on Mourinho's head but he cant do any more than ask for players and wait. Yes he should be getting more out of the squad he's got, but we have done nothing this summer to close that gap to City and the clubs behind (especially Liverpool) have done great business to at least match or better us from last season. I expect Arsenal to be up there this season along with City and Liverpool, and its going to be a 3 way scrap for 4th between us, Chelsea and Spurs. After losing that much ground on City last season, we should have been straight out of the blocks with signings we need and we have done next to nothing. We have signed one player basically (Dalot very much learning and Grant 3rd choice won't play). Not good enough.

 

[Vanjagl]

Well, I take the positive about this window. It made me want to play FM again and Im literally losing 3h of my life making all the players free agents, then Ill play for 3h and get bored. Oh well.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

absolutely we do.I just wonder how jose must feel at missing out on the ones he wanted and how he views the boards efforts to deliver

Didn’t see one bit of him being peed in his presser like previous ones in pre season. Came out fighting and praised the players he has. Mourinho with a chip on his shoulder and us against them mentality could be danger for the rest of the league! Don’t buy this meltdown bollocks people been spouting.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

As good as he is at the business side, he really should be kept away from the footballing side. How many new sponsorships have we announced since Jose gave him his list of players? He cant focus on the business and sign players at the same time. We need a director of football to handle signings and outgoings. Even the players he's sold we have practically given away over the years compared to what other clubs are getting for similar or worse players. I think there is only Blind where we can be happy with what we have got back.

But as long as we keep getting top 4 or winning trophies the board will be happy with what is going on and happy with the money Ed is bringing in. If somebody like Mourinho doesn't even have enough influence for the board to take note and get the players in then it would be stupid to think another manager coming in would suddenly mean more transfers.

Unfortunately if things go **** up it will be on Mourinho's head but he cant do any more than ask for players and wait. Yes he should be getting more out of the squad he's got, but we have done nothing this summer to close that gap to City and the clubs behind (especially Liverpool) have done great business to at least match or better us from last season. I expect Arsenal to be up there this season along with City and Liverpool, and its going to be a 3 way scrap for 4th between us, Chelsea and Spurs. After losing that much ground on City last season, we should have been straight out of the blocks with signings we need and we have done next to nothing. We have signed one player basically (Dalot very much learning and Grant 3rd choice won't play). Not good enough.

He’s actually done good at getting rid of players especially under Mourinho. Memphis, Schniderlin, Blind, Johnstone, Miki. He’s not perfect but he’s not bad either.

 

[steveorobbo]

One good thing to come of it is we have been crying out for Pereira to be given a chance for the last 2 years. He'll have till January to prove hes a good member of the squad. And surely its the last chance for Shaw now. Could be like a new player if her stays fit and performs. We have yet to see the best of Pogba so if Fred can bring that out of him then thats a massive bonus.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

One good thing to come of it is we have been crying out for Pereira to be given a chance for the last 2 years. He'll have till January to prove hes a good member of the squad. And surely its the last chance for Shaw now. Could be like a new player if her stays fit and performs. We have yet to see the best of Pogba so if Fred can bring that out of him then thats a massive bonus.

Thats the good thing. There is so much potential and more to come from everyone!

 

[djs1]

One good thing to come of it is we have been crying out for Pereira to be given a chance for the last 2 years. He'll have till January to prove hes a good member of the squad. And surely its the last chance for Shaw now. Could be like a new player if her stays fit and performs. We have yet to see the best of Pogba so if Fred can bring that out of him then thats a massive bonus.

well a rejuvinated pogba could be like a new signing off the back of the world cup

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

.@FulhamFC to confirm Fosu-Mensah loan shortly.

 

[steveorobbo]

He’s actually done good at getting rid of players especially under Mourinho. Memphis, Schniderlin, Blind, Johnstone, Miki. He’s not perfect but he’s not bad either.

I meant the prices hes getting for the players. Miki he gave away as part of the Sanchez deal. Schniderlin was a loss even with the potential add-ons. Memphis was a loss again and a big loss for a player of his potential at the time. Johnstone was ok but pretty pointless if we dont have a sell on clause. Keane was practically given away.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

how do you guys feel about the transfer dealings?Unorganised and incompetent on woodwards part or simply refusing to back jose and get the signings he wanted?.Yes those players would have made us better no doubt but in the long term? pretty much all those targets are 29/30........

I think the latter there plays a big part in this. If they’re looking at him being gone by next season ..... Then you’ve all the money they’ve given him already and him not even playing some of those players ...., all stacks up,

You also have to look at the ridiculously unneeded Sanchez addition adding yet more to an already stupendous wage blll. With only Blind leaving. Has to come a point, regardless of Utd’s wealth, where that needs to come down. Fair argument to think they were looking to sell to buy and failed badly executing either.

 

[Tyton]

He already spend big on 2 centerbacks and doesn't even play them, so I don't know why is anybody surprised if club didn't want to shell out money on yet another one. Especially since most of the targets were aging and bound to become deadwood on huge wages in 1-2 years that cannot be shipped off.

 

[Mike.]

United's wage bill isn't even close to stupendous (44% of turnover). Only Spurs have tighter control on theirs (41%)

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

I meant the prices hes getting for the players. Miki he gave away as part of the Sanchez deal. Schniderlin was a loss even with the potential add-ons. Memphis was a loss again and a big loss for a player of his potential at the time. Johnstone was ok but pretty pointless if we dont have a sell on clause. Keane was practically given away.

That Miki deal was a good deal for us. And to get nearly all our money back for Schneiderlin was good also. Was never gonna get more than 22m for Memphis. Was dogshit here and cared more for clothes and cars than playing football most of the times.