The Manchester United Thread

dilakh2 said:
You know its bad when rival clubs want Mourinho to stay on.
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Indeed.

As one of the lads here just said, he really hopes they beat Burnley Sunday. Don’t need the loses piling up and Woodward getting ideas to bin him.
 
Bujakaa92 said:
God ****, the presser was decent and Mou made some good points but whyy to you do this stuff in the end....
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He always makes good points, and he's certainly not raving like some suggest. But ultimately he's suffering from problems of his own making.
 
Problem for us is if things continue the way they are... we have to sack Mourinho to avoid the 3rd season history he produces... but who on earth would we even turn to? Zidane is seemingly the only slight option and there is no one else seemingly who could come in. Even Zidane has supposedly taken some role at Juventus, but not sure if that is finalised yet. Director of football or something.

As much as I think Zidane is a great man manager, I'm not all that confident he is the one to turn this club around. It's a much bigger challenge than Madrid will ever be. Despite his incredible achievement in the CL.
 
Lukaku's finishing has been dreadful in these 3 opening games, he can't be missing open goals. Such a mess, he done well last season but I always feel we need another good striker to really offer something else. Rashford and Sanchez aren't really strikers so not like he has any real competition.
 
Where the **** was Pereira and Martial yesterday? This is so Mourinho to completely drop these players from the squad because of a bad game. Same with Lindelof and Bailly, even though they were not great last week against Brighton, you can't continue to just chop and change because of one bad game. They'll never improve and when you have alternatives like Jones/Smalling it's not like they are going to build a good partnership long-term either.

He has some of the dressing room still at this point, but there are definitely certain players who would love to see the back of him. A divide in the dressing room is always start of the end.
 
Personally think any sacking needed to happen in May gone by. Getting someone in now isn’t going to improve us, especially considering the slim list available. Just need to hold in there, it can only improve. The lads haven’t stopped playing for him like Chelsea, we played Spurs off the park last night until the Kane header, and they just picked us off in Mourinho fashion after that.
 
zzeezzy said:
Problem for us is if things continue the way they are... we have to sack Mourinho to avoid the 3rd season history he produces... but who on earth would we even turn to? Zidane is seemingly the only slight option and there is no one else seemingly who could come in. Even Zidane has supposedly taken some role at Juventus, but not sure if that is finalised yet. Director of football or something.

As much as I think Zidane is a great man manager, I'm not all that confident he is the one to turn this club around. It's a much bigger challenge than Madrid will ever be. Despite his incredible achievement in the CL.
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Yeah think that’s done and dusted with Juve. New dream team of McKenna and Carrick ;)
 
I just watched that post match press conference in full and it was actually very good from Mourinho. Admittedly he lost the plot a bit at the end and the mention of his league titles wasn't really relevant. But everything else he raised shown he has passion still to succeed and he was very honest about a lot of things. Like how when we played Sevilla we was bad and deserved to be booed off. But yesterday despite the scoreline fans applauded because the first half performance was good and the players at least tried.

Plus I have to say the media were absolute disgrace with the comments, they wouldn't talk like that to anyone else like Klopp or Pep. They were trying to rile him with ******* comments in between questions. "Fans left early" "Team didn't play well you conceded 3 goals".
 
zzeezzy said:
I just watched that post match press conference in full and it was actually very good from Mourinho. Admittedly he lost the plot a bit at the end and the mention of his league titles wasn't really relevant. But everything else he raised shown he has passion still to succeed and he was very honest about a lot of things. Like how when we played Sevilla we was bad and deserved to be booed off. But yesterday despite the scoreline fans applauded because the first half performance was good and the players at least tried.

Plus I have to say the media were absolute disgrace with the comments, they wouldn't talk like that to anyone else like Klopp or Pep. They were trying to rile him with ******* comments in between questions. "Fans left early" "Team didn't play well you conceded 3 goals".
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You and I, especially you, have been critics if him as much as anything. But we can both agree ye wasn't anywhere near to losing the plot, and that it was a real media stitch up. Now that said, only he can get himself and the club out. That requires him showing a different side. And people like Carrick can have a real impact here. Adjust your way of thinking. And he can not only think get out of it, but still make a huge title challenge, but he's got to see the opportunity to change, not just defend himself (arguably rightly for once)
 
United is like alcoholic's wife. If you marry a man hoping he would change, you probably shouldn't have married him in a first place.
 
Mike. said:
You and I, especially you, have been critics if him as much as anything. But we can both agree ye wasn't anywhere near to losing the plot, and that it was a real media stitch up. Now that said, only he can get himself and the club out. That requires him showing a different side. And people like Carrick can have a real impact here. Adjust your way of thinking. And he can not only think get out of it, but still make a huge title challenge, but he's got to see the opportunity to change, not just defend himself (arguably rightly for once)
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I agree, at the end of the day I've known us start the last two seasons like a house on fire winning the first 3 opening games and then falling off big time mid-season. Whilst there is no way in denying that we should have at least got something out of the last two games, nothing is lost yet. I'm not all that confident that Mourinho can turn it around due to history but if we go off what we see football and his persona.... there is still a chance.
 
zzeezzy said:
I agree, at the end of the day I've known us start the last two seasons like a house on fire winning the first 3 opening games and then falling off big time mid-season. Whilst there is no way in denying that we should have at least got something out of the last two games, nothing is lost yet. I'm not all that confident that Mourinho can turn it around due to history but if we go off what we see football and his persona.... there is still a chance.
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He's more than capable of it. He just needs to remember it
 
I am not sure why there is even a discussion about this. Best is just to sack him sharp-ish and get on with it. Even if there is a positive uptick in results in the next few weeks, the club is still heading nowhere under Mourinho. His relationships with key players like Martial and Pogba already seem strained beyond repair. Cant imagine any of the cente-backs love him after he spent the entire summer saying they are not good enough.

Zzeezy got it right. As long as there are players in the dressing room who cant stand him, the disease will spread like a rot and the situation is doomed anyways. Not everyone hated him at Chelsea, it just took a few.
 
The most disturbing thing to me, were it my club, would be how he’s actively taking the P out of the club and support (which made his B/S both on the pitch and in his meltdown, and it most certainly was however you try spin it, presser all the more insulting), by actively playing games to make a point to the board. Utd are still well in the game at 1-0 Monday night until Herrera F’s up the second goal. Herrera. A midfielder playing centre half. After he’s dropped the two lads he had Utd spend a combined what, £70 million on? One who he complete blitzed out of the 18. The other who looked a complete nervous weck when he came on having lost his place to said MIDFIELDER. There’s only one reason he played Herrera there. There’s only one reason he’s switching them around every game. There’s only one reason he’s getting so defensive and talking utter _____ when quizzed on if he knows his back best back 4? To send a message to Woodward and to excuse himself and frame his own defence the worst things get. All against one of the leagues best, most settled sides. All at Utd and the paying supports expense. (But it’s got NOTHING to do with his tactics let’s not forget. *Eye roll. It’s all down to individual errors ..... Which he’s brought about by putting the fear of God and utter confusion in most every player.).

I kind of admire the defiance in here but how anyone can honestly think there can be any sort of title challenge is baffling? Utd are headed one way and that’s away from even a top four challenge. Which he massively rode his luck on last year if people are honest behind the man who was your player of the year yet again. De Gea. This ____ has been going on WAY longer than the three games this season. Utd finished the last campaign in teal bad form. And then came back the summer where he was downing all his players from day one and making everyone utterly miserable. Which rolled through the pre-season, as much as folk tried to brush it off as friendlies not being important et all. And it’s rolled right on into the new season with absolutely zero sign of him stopping the game playing and picking fights with just about everyome and actually doing what he’s paid to do. Manage Utd.
 
There's no spin and we don't need patronising on admiration how we view the situation. It's literally 3 games in, it can go in any direction. Which is why it's still on him. The reaction from likes of De Gea show the players are still being him. The next 6 or 7 games will be extremely telling
 
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