The Manchester United Thread

zzeezzy said:
I agree, at the end of the day I've known us start the last two seasons like a house on fire winning the first 3 opening games and then falling off big time mid-season. Whilst there is no way in denying that we should have at least got something out of the last two games, nothing is lost yet. I'm not all that confident that Mourinho can turn it around due to history but if we go off what we see football and his persona.... there is still a chance.
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Ultimately he'll either succeed or get sacked, there's not much middle ground in a situation like this.

Hes turned things round with Shaw, when you consider so many people thought that relationship was dead and buried. It's the same thing. People love hyperbole and sensation these days, but there's 35 games left. He can't waste too many more games, and I'm not saying he will turn it around. But the idea of people being so definitive is nonsense.
 
Burnley away next, usually a very tricky game, we won't win it unless we're at the races that's for sure. Got to say though, our defence really is going to be a mess again, Smalling and Bailly is about the best we can hope for. If Bailly will even be back in time for that, considering he completely disappeared from the squad for Spurs. Literally none of our CB's seem capable of playing a run of games.
 
Doesn't help that he always chaanging the lineup. I'm a big beliver in having a stable defensive partnership, you can't blame the players for lack of defensive organization if backline goes through revolution every single week.
 
Optimism that Jose will turn it around is fine. Its just that it has never actually happened in his managerial history otherwise, he would have stayed at a job longer than just 3 seasons.
 
Tyton said:
Doesn't help that he always chaanging the lineup. I'm a big beliver in having a stable defensive partnership, you can't blame the players for lack of defensive organization if backline goes through revolution every single week.
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Obviously there is no stone cold truth to this, but there is rumours starting to circle that players are starting to grow unhappy about being brought in and out of the team virtually every week. It certainly is odd, the likes of Bailly (supposedly injured) Pereira and Martial wasn't even in the squad for Spurs.
 
Tyton said:
Doesn't help that he always chaanging the lineup. I'm a big beliver in having a stable defensive partnership, you can't blame the players for lack of defensive organization if backline goes through revolution every single week.
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100%. They are going to make silly mistakes until they gel and can read each other.
 




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Humility is the word you’re looking for Alc.

The main leadership quality he’s never possessed. It’s everyones fault BAR his own. He was sound Monday when Shreeves was being cringelly sycophantic toward him. Then you get the ultra defensive, utterly embarrassing B/S mode when he doesn’t get what he wants to hear the main press conference. (Still wondering which route he goes back into town that takes him over 2 hours. Does he go via r’s? But I digress ..... )

Can’t change when you can never see any wrong in yourself and just revert back to titles won years ago in a game that’s completely passing him by. From his negativity to his complete inability to deal with today’s players from each ever changing generation.
 
Theatre of Dreams83 said:
Nail on head!

https://twitter.com/adamwsweeney/status/1034775845636853762?s=21
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Whilst the media annoy me as much as the next guy, if we never questioned or had a negative opinion of those in superior positions, we'd be still in the stone-ages. Are most sports journalist arrogant ****** who think they're better than they are? Without doubt. Should the fact they've never managed a football club discredit their views on the game they love, or anyone's for that matter? No chance. I'll continue to sit in my livingroom at midnight rewatching extended highlights/full match with a beer in one hand, and shouting at my laptop exactly where Jose went wrong and why he should hire me as his #2.
 
RhQQ said:
..... and shouting at my laptop exactly where Jose went wrong and why he should hire me as his #2.
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Simon Jordan trying to keep himself relevant aside, that’s something badly missing mate. A solid, proper Utd man as a #2 like a Mike Phelan who wouldn’t be scared to stand-up to him and say ‘Boss. You’re acting like a petulant ***** and it’s destroying the team. Sort this pathetic **** out with Woodward and his guys. Stop picking fights with everyone and anyone, check your ego and put the club and fans first. This is Manchester F United. Not some plaything for José Mourinho.’

Or something.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Simon Jordan trying to keep himself relevant aside, that’s something badly missing mate. A solid, proper Utd man as a #2 like a Mike Phelan who wouldn’t be scared to stand-up to him and say ‘Boss. You’re acting like a petulant ***** and it’s destroying the team. Sort this pathetic **** out with Woodward and his guys. Stop picking fights with everyone and anyone, check your ego and put the club and fans first. This is Manchester F United. Not some plaything for José Mourinho.’

Or something.
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Are you bigging me to apply?
 
Yeah, I remember Caraggher had a good piece on this. Once the rot starts and relationships start to break there's no turning it around and most managers in his career stayed for a year too long.
 
Snorks said:
That is good news if it gores through.
I wonder how many other players are thinking along the same lines though. "Get through this period as my contract's longer than Mou's"
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United never intended to sell Martial. And Jamie Jackson reports that Mourinho is happy for the club to extend the contract.

So the only thing you can objectively take from it is that United want him to stay, which was always the case. He's only 22. Shaw seems to be next too
 
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