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I think we've already established that they don't have any sense at all, which is the whole problem.
When they've abanonded the tradition of giving manager time and plenty of leeway, that was fair enough. The old way wasn't really suited to the XXI century and club that is mainly a business that needs to be wary of stockholders.
But then you need to complete the transition and run the footballing side like it's a business, by building a structure that sits above the manager and ensures the ships keeps steady and on the right track even if manager gets sacked.
Instead, they just find the biggest celebrity manager who is currently available, give him a warchest and expect instant results.
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Utd woman drew 0-0. Dominated the game. Missed a penalty hit the bar and post numerous times. And the GK was MOTM.
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What’s your opinions on Fonseca at Shaktar Mike. Really like there style of play. Very much in the mould of Poch, Klopp etc. High press very quick in transition scoring for fun. Seems to do well with players and very good with the press when I’ve seen him.
The players would love him. Pogba would probably think he's too good for him, so fine, **** him off for someone like Dybala and play a pressing 4-2-3-1
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Yeah agree RE Pogba. Most probably not name enough manager. He’s doing a great job at Shaktar. He’s transformed the way they played. Most probably not fashionable enough for Ed/Board
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Ducker saying this morning Zidane is the firm favourite to take over if Mourihno goes.
No, because the situation could have been handled so much better by Mourinho. Notice how allegri had no such problems.
Tbh if it ever happened, I don't even know what I'd make of Zidane as an appointment. Lets all be honest here, this next appointment has to be spot on and we can't get it wrong again.
I mean.... Zidane's achievements were great at Madrid..... particularly in Europe...... but his league success wasn't that great. Mourinho had plenty of success at Madrid, league wise anyway and set a record of most points/goals scored when he was there.
I just really don't know what to make of Zidane, he's undoubtedly a great man manager but I'm just not convinced he is the right replacement.
I mean.... Zidane's achievements were great at Madrid..... particularly in Europe...... but his league success wasn't that great. Mourinho had plenty of success at Madrid, league wise anyway and set a record of most points/goals scored when he was there.
I just really don't know what to make of Zidane, he's undoubtedly a great man manager but I'm just not convinced he is the right replacement.
Anyone who gets United playing on the front foot, and doesn't fight with someone each week is a start. United have loads of talent. What they need right now is really good man management. And we've got very too coaches around him, who can have a greater tactical input
Problem is that we have no clear direction or plan as a club in a footballing sense.... with commercial matters it is totally different story. Which just sums it all up for me as to where our priorities are. What did Woodward say middle of last season? It doesn't matter if we don't make top 4 because we'll still make money.
Zidane to me just seems like the star name that we are going for again without any real thought into necessarily the direction we are going. This is not saying Zidane is necessarily right or wrong appointment but I'm not convinced he can transform us without change above the hierarchy as well.
To be honest this applies to any new manager coming in, we need more than just a manager change now. Sort the director of football out at least, stop postponing it due to some bullshit reason.
Zidane to me just seems like the star name that we are going for again without any real thought into necessarily the direction we are going. This is not saying Zidane is necessarily right or wrong appointment but I'm not convinced he can transform us without change above the hierarchy as well.
To be honest this applies to any new manager coming in, we need more than just a manager change now. Sort the director of football out at least, stop postponing it due to some bullshit reason.
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Be stupid to not even talk to Beppe Morata!
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If Woody can get his head out his ****. And stop thinking he’s the Don, who thinks he knows anything about the football side of things. And give up some power and do the right thing for the club. And get a director that would be a huge start. Has to much control over **** he knows **** all about tbh!
Hence my point about Marotta. Zidane simply looks after the team. Unless he's got a job we'd be fools not to chase him.
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Valencia presser:
Jose Mourinho asked if he has spoken to #MUFC executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward since Saturday. "That's a private matter," he said. "I'm not asking who you speak to. That's a private matter"
Jose Mourinho asked if he has spoken to #MUFC executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward since Saturday. "That's a private matter," he said. "I'm not asking who you speak to. That's a private matter"
Jose: "I told already that after 20 years of football, I am still the kid I was and am still naïve. I don’t believe the players are not honest.""I think that some care more than others" - Mourinho on the #MUFC squad
A big week
“Champions League week is always a good week, even if expect a difficult, match,a difficult opponent. It is a big week, everyone wants to play.”
Young, Valencia, Rojo, Herrera, Lingard all our injured.
Mourinho tries to laugh off reports Zidane called him over the weekend. Crucially - he didn’t deny them #mufc
Jose asked if his job is on line if results don't improve: "No. I don’t think."
Matic on Saturday: "One of my worst games since I signed for Man Utd."
Matic: "We are not scared to play."
Matic: "When you play for Man Utd everyone expects you win the games, when you don’t win two games in a row, there is more attention on you. We know that."
When asked if he got a call from Zidane he pointed to Custis and said "Ask him, he put a bug on my phone!"
Wow, you know **** is going down when TOD is posting negative. But I do agree with you mate, it's a right mess at the moment top to bottom.
Mourinho's reply to why he played 3-5-2 after that game "I wanted to play Martial, but Martial isn't very defensive minded". Why on earth are we dictating a formation and style to one player?
Then the McTominay thing at the back was the most baffling, almost like he's trying to prove a point to the board at this point. That's literally the only logical explanation I can think of to why he selected McTominay as a CB when you have the likes of Bailly on the bench.
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Just had enough mate. I don’t usually rant or go overly negative. But the clubs becoming a farce.
I will I’ll hold my hands up and say that in the past when people like Scouse have mocked us and how we have been run etc and how we would end up. I would think he was just on a WUM mission but over time it’s apearing more and more true. Not saying it’s gone well and truly to **** and Unsalvageable but it’s getting to tipping point. Depending on the next few decisions made on the football side of things.
His is explanations for both Matial and McTominey were a joke! Said at the time. Saying he dropped Sanchez and played Martial because that’s what the press, had been asking for. Who the **** cares just pick the best players in there positions. Your the manager not the ******* journalists.
Can seriously sly see it being the end if we have bad results against Chelsea and Valencia. It has to be surely!? Bouhafsi on RMC French radio has been saying this afternoon that Zidane has defo held talks and that he would be interested in having Evra on his staff.
****** depressing really is. And to top it off getting it nearly 8hrs a day at work ain’t helping from City, Pool, Leeds fans
