Oh, I wasn't sure tbf but still we've gave them so much **** time and space with the ball. Push up a bit or something.
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Oh, I wasn't sure tbf but still we've gave them so much **** time and space with the ball. Push up a bit or something.
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I have no idea why Rashford is still on the pitch or what he has done tonight. Oh except cut back and pass it to Young. Great effort by Pogba.
He done that good dribble and took on 2 players to be fair... not with any end product but meh.... I would give Chong a go!
It's all individual work, there is not team cohesion. This is the biggest reason Jose has to go for me, forget everything else. If this team was defensive, but superbly drilled, I could happily live with that as there is an identity there. But there isn't here.
Not even made a sub tonight, don't get it. Wish Mourinho would stop doing that stupid "I'll show you how many trophies I've won" hand gesture to everyone now. It's really all about him but to do that during a game when Juventus fans are goading you.... just amateurish.
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No subs was strange!
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Lindelöf easily MOTM tonight. You could redo tell the difference in quality and coaching tonight from where we should be. Both in terms of players and play style.
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A week before the season in response to myself .....
Yanno, looking at the first quarter of the season, I think I well ‘under’ egged it lads.
Yanno, looking at the first quarter of the season, I think I well ‘under’ egged it lads.
I can not take Mourinho seriously anymore, he raves on about Juventus and their quality/stability. What on earth does he need to be successful then?????? He has had hundreds of millions, there are several signings of yours that you don't even play in starting 11. If you want more quality in midfield why not select Fred? Why even buy Fred, Bailly and moan about needing more???????
*facepalm*
Excuses, excuses, this is all Mourinho does.... the team should be miles ahead from where it is now in terms of identity, style and team cohesion generally.
*facepalm*
Excuses, excuses, this is all Mourinho does.... the team should be miles ahead from where it is now in terms of identity, style and team cohesion generally.
Mourinho you don't need any more money to make more of a game than that yesterday! Like Ferdinand said on BT afterwards those Juventus players probably went off afterwards how easy it was because our players didn't hardly put any sustained pressure on them throughout the game.
Juventus have more quality than United blah blah **** off with that Mou, even if it's true you've had the time and money.
Juventus have more quality than United blah blah **** off with that Mou, even if it's true you've had the time and money.
I think that's a bit harsh. Jose has done poorly so far, but we're talking Juventus here, arguably best managed club in whole of Europe throughout last 6-7 years. Marotta has done a marvelous job in turning them around. They do great business, they improve almost every year, they maintain stable, cohesive squad, players love it there, and so on and so forth. Meanwhile United have been an absolute mess, and not all of that is on Mourinho.
Nothing harsh about it mate, Mourinho is a walking embarrassment.... how can he state how Juventus have so much more quality and stability when this team is literally the spine he has bought. Matic... Pogba.... Fred...... this is the midfield Mourinho bought so why moan now? The defence also is a mess but that's his own doing as well. Lukaku.... this is literally his team...... would one more CB so drastically change us into a better footballing team? Not in **** would it under Mourinho.
Juventus are a better run club undoubtedly, but I'll simply ask you this.... if they went to Stamford Bridge yesterday to play Chelsea would they of made more of a game of it? The answer is probably, that's a team that isn't run better than United but managed a whole lot better within 3 months of a tenure under Sarri.
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Chelsea actually aren't a badly run club, it just seems that way because of all the in's & out's in terms of managers. Think I saw a stat somewhere that they've never went consecutive trophyless seasons since their first PL title in 04-05. Obviously you'd like managerial sustainability and maybe a bit of extra transfer market support for the manager coming off a title winning season, but it's hard to argue when their model consistently wins and challenges for trophies.
On your current debate, you're both right. Jose has little right to complain about team quality when he's had such backing, but he could've been backed a little further with Alderweireld tbf, but as you say, Alderweireld solves none of the problems on show last night, as good as he is. There's been a lot of embarrassment at this club since Sir Alex's retirement, and nobody is without some degree of blame for that, Sir Alex included.
On your current debate, you're both right. Jose has little right to complain about team quality when he's had such backing, but he could've been backed a little further with Alderweireld tbf, but as you say, Alderweireld solves none of the problems on show last night, as good as he is. There's been a lot of embarrassment at this club since Sir Alex's retirement, and nobody is without some degree of blame for that, Sir Alex included.
That wasn't me digging out Chelsea for being badly run, but the chop and change of managers always has an impact. There is a reason for that and we'd be foolish to think that a lot of this can't be fixed under a new manager.
it is pitiful how bad we actually are into 2 and a half years of a tenure, there is no solid defence, no style, no identity. That's mainly if not all on Mourinho for me. For the record I blame the board for a few things as well but Mourinho is performing way under par that it should be for a club like United.
I'm just sick of his excuses to be honest, he really doesn't have anything to complain about other than perhaps a CB last summer. But Maguire or Toby wouldn't of fixed this like you say. We could have a central partnership of Chiellini and Bonucci... we'd still play the same lifeless dull way.