The Manchester United Thread

RhQQ said:
Poch is my number one choice, but am I the only one who's warming to the idea of Ole? I know it's still early days, but if he does an amazing job from now until the end of the season, why not? Definitely seeing some United principles restored which is nice - it's almost like Sir Alex has been back for the last 3 games. Shape high & wide, FB's bombing, people getting into the box, high intensity, expressing themselves.

But do think Poch is a potential superstar, Champions League winning coach who has a proven record of developing players and upping them a level. Has went to Nou Camp & Bernabeu and produced some class tactical performances, definitely more pedigree.
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Don't get me wrong I think Ole has done a great job so far not only in terms of results but the performances have been 10x better than anything Mourinho produced. But I am a bit worried that fans are already contemplating the idea of appointing him permanent, next season is absolutely critical for Manchester United. If we miss out on CL two seasons in a row then we lose out on a lot of sponsorship money.

We need to just relax and see how it goes, tougher tests to come but at the same time be happy that we're playing some football. For Ole to get the job I want to see him get us in top 4 and beat a few of the big boys convincingly. We can't take any gambles with our next permanent manager.

Regarding that so called 'shortlist' I think they are all good candidates but don't want Laurent Blanc at all tbh. He has been out of management for years and didn't ever really rate him even when he ws in management. We need someone with modern ideas and who is a great coach, Blanc won't be that.
 
if they were gonna do that though, both could have been in place before this window.
 
Blanc is a dinosaur what kind of vision is he going to have that will benefit us going forward anyway, don't fancy him even as a DOF.
 
Zidane or Blanc would of been in by now. Has to be a combo either Poch or Rose with a DOF of Mitchell or Berta. Has to be either of these imo.
 
woolly said:
That's possible but who is their right mind would want to take over after Jose, they would be on a hiding to nothing. Ole took the post knowing full well he still had a very safe post to return to in Molde you can't say the same about Zidane or Blanc. They aren't first choice anyway if they were like you say they would be in post by now.
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Sorry but this point of view I never understand at all, what manager with any ambition would not want to come now? A fallen giant who needs rebuilding and will be given the backing to do it, the perfect time is to come now. The worst time to come was after Fergie when we had all the success in the world. Any manager who comes in now will not have any sort of expectation that normally any top club would have next season.

Any manager worth their salt would love the United job now, it's literally the perfect time, never have a better opportunity to come in and get all the glory if you can take us back to some success again.

If a manager doesn't want it than that just says it all, Zidane might want an easy job like Juventus where there is little competition, that's fine it says more about the mentality we shouldn't be bringing in.
 
I reckon I'd be good enough as head man, piece of ****. ZZ as assistant, but he's forbidden to have any team or player talks after defeat for obvious reasons.
 
RhQQ said:
I reckon I'd be good enough as head man, piece of ****. ZZ as assistant, but he's forbidden to have any team or player talks after defeat for obvious reasons.
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Pogba would go off and have a tantrum after one of my post match talks if we lost.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the idea of Ole staying on as a no.2 with someone like Poch. Sure it's not the proper gig but surely more appetising than going back to Molde and he'd still be involved a lot.
 
zzeezzy said:
Pogba would go off and have a tantrum after one of my post match talks if we lost.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the idea of Ole staying on as a no.2 with someone like Poch. Sure it's not the proper gig but surely more appetising than going back to Molde and he'd still be involved a lot.
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Ole will have decent offers elsewhere if he impresses. I think that was a factor in taking this temporary job, a big stepping stone. Besides, Poch strikes me as a "you take me, you take my team" type of guy, along with 1 or 2 players maybe (Eriksen/Kane/Alderweireld the only ones I'd take, maybe young Winks).
 
RhQQ said:
Ole will have decent offers elsewhere if he impresses. I think that was a factor in taking this temporary job, a big stepping stone. Besides, Poch strikes me as a "you take me, you take my team" type of guy, along with 1 or 2 players maybe (Eriksen/Kane/Alderweireld the only ones I'd take, maybe young Winks).
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its going to be hard as **** to get poch let alone any players baby steps
 
kitchin75 said:
its going to be hard as **** to get poch let alone any players baby steps
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Aside from anything, to say you’d be massively disappointed in him as a Tottenham supporter if he didn’t at least give it one season in the new ground would be an understatement.
 
We're Manchester United not Tottenham Hotspur and we don't need their players anyway, plenty of others who are just as good and will be easier to get most likely. Sure we might try for one or two that are near contract expiration but apart from that I honestly don't think we need much anyway. We've got a good squad if under the right management, we just need someone to utilise it and bring through our great youth talents into first team.
 
zzeezzy said:
We're Manchester United not Tottenham Hotspur and we don't need their players anyway, plenty of others who are just as good and will be easier to get most likely. Sure we might try for one or two that are near contract expiration but apart from that I honestly don't think we need much anyway. We've got a good squad if under the right management, we just need someone to utilise it and bring through our great youth talents into first team.
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It's not 2009. They have more world beaters than us. I'd bite your hand off for some of their players, as would the Madrid's & Barcas of the world I'm sure.
 
RhQQ said:
It's not 2009. They have more world beaters than us. I'd bite your hand off for some of their players, as would the Madrid's & Barcas of the world I'm sure.
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Who would you bite their hand off for though? We literally have so much attacking quality in this squad it's ridiculous the amount of riches, problem is up until Ole came in we had a manager who didn't want to make the most of it and would rather moan: -

Rashford (world-class on his day_
Martial (world-class on his day)
Pogba (world-class on his day)
Mata
Sanchez (best player in PL before Mourinho got his hands on him)
Lukaku (one of best strikers in PL before Mourinho got his hands on him)
Lingard
Chong

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Sure they have Aldiwireld but he's nearly 30 now and why go for him when he isn't really a leader anyway. He's not someone who's going to come in and totally take charge like Van Dijk. The only defender that I can see who would fit that mould is Koulibaly, so go for him or stick with what we have.
 
Fans need to wake up and realise that Mourinho had brainwashed you into thinking this squad is somehow subpar. There is international elite level players in every area of our squad.
 
Eriksen is probably the best AM in the world this season. He's so underrated. Has even not looked out of place in CM when deployed there, top class in build up & final third; De Bruyne-esque - a tactically flexible game-changer with consistent year-after-year output. Toby Alderweireld is one of the best CB's in the world. Eriksen for Mata & Toby for Rojo would be incredible upgrades, for example.

How can they be good enough for the Real Madrid's, Barca's & PSG's of the world to monitor but not us? Major disrespect there in my opinion, ZZ. I'm not brainwashed either, I know we have very talented attackers, but the Spurs players I have named improve any XI in football.

It's all hypothetical and a non-discussion as we haven't even got Poch yet, but if he were to want to bring those players with him, I'd be jumping with joy.
 
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Problem is it is hard to calculate at the moment anything rationally when we have had for such a long time world-class players who haven't been playing at that level due to what we think the manager being an issue.

On the other hand you have a load of dross looking like world-beaters at times under a manager who can get the best out of them. Even players like Sissoko look good now and a season or two ago most people thought he was garbage.

My point is that they have good players, as do we, but the difference is that it's hard to calculate the difference Pochettino would make to our players when you see what he is doing with some of their dross. It's really just like when we had Fergie and he made the likes of Cleverley into a PL winning midfielder and a load of other dross look great.

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I never think Eriksen & Pogba would work in a team together anyway, maybe I'm wrong but I can't see it. If there is anyone I'd want from Spurs right now it would be Son, yes we have loads of attacking talent but this guy could be our next Park Ji Sung. He'll always work his bollox off and has the output as well, always useful to have a player like that in any squad. A bit like a better version of Lingard in many ways so I'd even be sceptical that we need him.
 
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