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CL level manager doesn’t mean you have to be an innovative or revolutionary coach. He drills an excellent defensive system and executes it superbly.

Arent Simeone, Allegri etc. CL level coaches, despite their lack of modern innovation? I see him potentially reaching that bracket.

Credit to them but I just feel that style of football is a bit dated now. In fairness to Allegri he has more strings in his bow, their recent game against Atletico in CL being prime example. Plus when they played us at Old Trafford they play a more possession based game.
 
Credit to them but I just feel that style of football is a bit dated now. In fairness to Allegri he has more strings in his bow, their recent game against Atletico in CL being prime example. Plus when they played us at Old Trafford they play a more possession based game.

It was probably dated a few years after it first started. Doesn't meant it will stop anytime soon, nor should it - in most cases, it is still extremely effective. Besides, that's the beauty of Football isn't it, play however you want to//
 
It was probably dated a few years after it first started. Doesn't meant it will stop anytime soon, nor should it - in most cases, it is still extremely effective. Besides, that's the beauty of Football isn't it, play however you want to//

Yeah I'm not knocking anything they've done, I'm just wondering whether this style of play will continue to be successful, for example next season when teams will have an exact idea on what they are doing. Whether this style of play is going to get them to CL places, not beyond the realms of possibility next season, but pretty unlikely I think.
 
Jeremy Wilson chief writer for Telegraph released an article this morning saying Pochettino remains the plan for United and has always been the vision no matter how successful we are with Solskjaer in coming months.

I think it's a very interesting few months coming up, but for me if you have always had a plan to get a manager and then a caretaker comes in does well. Do we really abandon all this? I love Solskjaer as much as the next guy but I've felt for year now Pochettino was perfect for United. I don't think we can abandon that over a few months.

The club still seems set on Pochettino anyway, according to that article. Rightly or wrongly, fans won't like it mostly if true of course.
 
Jeremy Wilson chief writer for Telegraph released an article this morning saying Pochettino remains the plan for United and has always been the vision no matter how successful we are with Solskjaer in coming months.

I think it's a very interesting few months coming up, but for me if you have always had a plan to get a manager and then a caretaker comes in does well. Do we really abandon all this? I love Solskjaer as much as the next guy but I've felt for year now Pochettino was perfect for United. I don't think we can abandon that over a few months.

The club still seems set on Pochettino anyway, according to that article. Rightly or wrongly, fans won't like it mostly if true of course.
Wouldnt believe anything Wilson writes about Utd he’s terrible with anything to do with us especially transfers. And that piece he’s written is nothing but speculative nonsense. With no quotes or sources or even anything quoting his own sources. I would only pay attention to Ducker from the Telegraph regarding Utd.

Think it’s already done with Ole. When Woodward was asked directly after the PSG victory at the airport. He said with a big smile and smirk. “maybe” if he had given Ole the job already.


It it was only in Jan he was 100% sure we was selling Rojo, Sanchez and Darmian. And was tweeting about us getting/going for Griezmann again this Summer.
 
Nothing is done until its signed. And Wilson is a very good journalist.

Journalists never name sources ever
 
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Wouldnt believe anything Wilson writes about Utd he’s terrible with anything to do with us especially transfers. And that piece he’s written is nothing but speculative nonsense. With no quotes or sources or even anything quoting his own sources. I would only pay attention to Ducker from the Telegraph regarding Utd.

Think it’s already done with Ole. When Woodward was asked directly after the PSG victory at the airport. He said with a big smile and smirk. “maybe” if he had given Ole the job already.


It it was only in Jan he was 100% sure we was selling Rojo, Sanchez and Darmian. And was tweeting about us getting/going for Griezmann again this Summer.

The success rate of caretaker manager does worry me big time, especially when it comes to PL. I don't think there has been a successful one when turned into permanent manager in recent history? Most of them have a good honeymoon and then it goes **** up.

Very tough decision, Solskjaer is the fans favourite but I'm not sure whether we can overlook Pochettino if we can get him. In an ideal world you'd have both, Ole as assistant but that won't ever happen.
 
Nothing is done until its signed. And Wilson is a very good journalist.

Journalists never name sources ever
Never said he was a bad journalist. Just usually way off coming with Utd stuff. Obviously no one named sources lol. But usually you get the old bla bla a source close to the club at least.

Dont get me wrong I wouldn’t be upset if we got Poch. But he also has question marks to. Maybe miles off but can’t see us paying 40m or whatever to get Poch. Then still having the sufficient funds to get the players in we need. Also find it very odd that there plastering Ole on all the advertising for the Tour and Especially season tickets for next year. Even leaked to be in the new kit launches. But doesn’t necessarily mean anything.
 
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Never said he was a bad journalist. Just usually way off coming with Utd stuff. Obviously no one named sources lol. But usually you get the old bla bla a source close to the club at least.

Dont get me wrong I wouldn’t be upset if we got Poch. But he also has question marks to. Maybe miles off but can’t see us paying 40m or whatever to get Poch. Then still having the sufficient funds to get the players in we need. Also find it very odd that there plastering Ole on all the advertising for the Tour and Especially season tickets for next year. Even leaked to be in the new kit launches. But doesn’t necessarily mean anything.

He's no more off than ducker is tbh.
 
I still want Poch, the only thing that worries me a little is the fact that he'd probably take his entire coaching team with him and it could upset the current stability. Phelan & the lads are clearly adored by the boys, and know the club inside out. Could be a Moyes all over again.
 
I still want Poch, the only thing that worries me a little is the fact that he'd probably take his entire coaching team with him and it could upset the current stability. Phelan & the lads are clearly adored by the boys, and know the club inside out. Could be a Moyes all over again.
I think we should give ole a chance.I mean, if someone like ancelotti were available I’d switch in an instant, but I don’t really think Poch would do very well here, don’t think he’d be able to motivate the lads the way ole does(just something extra people with true big game experience can do, like Zizou, Carlo and others who have either played or managed big games on a regular basis
 
We have two really good options for differing reasons. Im quite happy to wait and play it out tbh
 
Allegri is the best tactician in football, but English media will eat him alive.
 
I think we should give ole a chance.I mean, if someone like ancelotti were available I’d switch in an instant, but I don’t really think Poch would do very well here, don’t think he’d be able to motivate the lads the way ole does(just something extra people with true big game experience can do, like Zizou, Carlo and others who have either played or managed big games on a regular basis

Don't get me wrong Solskjaer has done great things whilst here, but he lacks credentials at the top level of management and it just seems risky going with him. But my main worry is now after 2 defeats in a row, is the extended honeymoon over? We'll find out soon enough with the Watford game and the coming months.

I've always liked Pochettino, think he does wonders at times with that Spurs team. But at the same time Ole is very likeable, but I'm just not sure if he'll be able to cope with management here when the pressure is really on. Now it is ramping up because every game counts now, so we'll soon find out.
 
I think Poch talked himself out of a job here with his comments after Spurs were dumped out of the FA Cup. The last two games have been **** but I'd be pretty disappointed if Ole didn't get the job now.
 
Don't get me wrong Solskjaer has done great things whilst here, but he lacks credentials at the top level of management and it just seems risky going with him. But my main worry is now after 2 defeats in a row, is the extended honeymoon over? We'll find out soon enough with the Watford game and the coming months.

I've always liked Pochettino, think he does wonders at times with that Spurs team. But at the same time Ole is very likeable, but I'm just not sure if he'll be able to cope with management here when the pressure is really on. Now it is ramping up because every game counts now, so we'll soon find out.
Tbh you don’t have to have top credentials to be a good manager. And it’s not like we have had look with the established ones since Fergie has gone. Whats Poch done to say he has credentials at the top level. He’s been good at developing some players. But let’s not act as if he’s managing a bunch of average players. And his record at the top level is absolutely terrible. And when it usually comes to the crunch his team usually bottles it.

Ole knows the club knows the players. Is respected by all involved in the club. From where we were he performed absolute miracles tbh. 2 defeats against 2 top side (people are forgetting this!) Arsenal don’t lose at home hardly and Wolves have been fantastic against the top teams and have some quality players. Least Ole would have had half a season to ***** the squad know exactly what he needs. And likely working on getting deals ready to be done early. With Poch your going back to square one and will be playing catch up on all fronts again going into a new season.

TBH like Munroe I don’t even think he wants the job not yet anyway. New stadium will keep all his best players and will likely get investment, New massive contract just signed. Plus in nearly all his interviews he’s been stead fast in committing to Spurs. Which wasn’t the case when his future was questioned at his previous clubs. Not to mention Levy will defo drag this out all summer.
 
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Apparently, Shaw has pulled out of the England squad due to injury. And Lukaku is undergoing scans. Just what we need. :/
 
Apparently, Shaw has pulled out of the England squad due to injury. And Lukaku is undergoing scans. Just what we need. :/
Think it’s just Ole learning from Sir Alex. Pulling a few players who need a rest. Lindelof hasn’t gone either.
 
Don't get me wrong Solskjaer has done great things whilst here, but he lacks credentials at the top level of management and it just seems risky going with him. But my main worry is now after 2 defeats in a row, is the extended honeymoon over? We'll find out soon enough with the Watford game and the coming months.

I've always liked Pochettino, think he does wonders at times with that Spurs team. But at the same time Ole is very likeable, but I'm just not sure if he'll be able to cope with management here when the pressure is really on. Now it is ramping up because every game counts now, so we'll soon find out.
I think it’a best to wait until the season is over for this decision incase ole falls off a cliff, but I don’t think credentials are a good yardstick for being a good manager for us.Look at Zidane, he only had an ok run with Castilla before he became real madrid manager and yet he led them to 3 CLs.Plus the players really seem to love ole.If he is fired, they might have a problem taking to the next manager(ala benitez post carlo), so really, it’d be best if we kept ole and focused on building a squad for him.

I think we need the following: Starting Right Back and a Young Midfielder(looking at Ruben Neves for this), anyone know how Januzaj’s doing?We could also use a striker with a different style than lukaku, someone like benzema to really set Martial and Rashford on fire in attack.Also think we should play a Bailly-Lindelof defence every game, see if we can get a partnership going there.
 
I think it’a best to wait until the season is over for this decision incase ole falls off a cliff, but I don’t think credentials are a good yardstick for being a good manager for us.Look at Zidane, he only had an ok run with Castilla before he became real madrid manager and yet he led them to 3 CLs.Plus the players really seem to love ole.If he is fired, they might have a problem taking to the next manager(ala benitez post carlo), so really, it’d be best if we kept ole and focused on building a squad for him.

I think we need the following: Starting Right Back and a Young Midfielder(looking at Ruben Neves for this), anyone know how Januzaj’s doing?We could also use a striker with a different style than lukaku, someone like benzema to really set Martial and Rashford on fire in attack.Also think we should play a Bailly-Lindelof defence every game, see if we can get a partnership going there.

The entire right side needs work. We haven't had a proper right winger for years. Sancho (or Bailey, whose name I've seen being touted about) could be the solution there. Plus, maybe think about LB too. Young is ageing, and Shaw, hopefully, his fitness continues, but we still need a backup for him. I'd say LB, RB and RM are needed. Oh, and a CM too, yes.
 
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