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Seems like the WC and the abuse De Gea and his girlfriend got after wards has absolutely shot his confidence!
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Have to consider that he has been pillar thats been holding United up so long with his performance. Seeing no mayor progress will take down even the strongest.
Zz man, I like you Ok, but every day you sound like a broken record. 99% of your posts here are ******** and moaning about stuff United cant change at this moment.
Yeah, United needs a new players. Yeah, United needs a better conditioning. Yeah, United needs to ''gel' to fit Solskjaers tactics - which are really good and effective but they are gas heavy.
All those things must be addressed in the summer. Its the end of the season, players are tiered because 1) They are in abysmal conditioning 2) Club screwed up with some key contracts 3) Some of them are not good enough.
We get it. We've been through this so many times. Please man, for your own sake, marry up.
Yeah, United needs a new players. Yeah, United needs a better conditioning. Yeah, United needs to ''gel' to fit Solskjaers tactics - which are really good and effective but they are gas heavy.
All those things must be addressed in the summer. Its the end of the season, players are tiered because 1) They are in abysmal conditioning 2) Club screwed up with some key contracts 3) Some of them are not good enough.
We get it. We've been through this so many times. Please man, for your own sake, marry up.
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Don’t think he was to bad tbh. Only CM Tonight putting in a shift for 90 mins. He gives the ball away trying to pass forward to much. Needs to learn when to do it and when to keep it simple. Been our best CM with Mctominey last few weeks. Not exactly flush with options lol.
I would say all these talks are affecting him. Same happened when he signed the deal last time. I have a feeling he's a bit of a snowflake.
Sorry watched him a couple of times now hes a headless chicken presses when sometimes holding his position is the best option. Watch him get the ball it takes him like two or three touches to get it under control and the plays gone by the time he gets the pass off no wonder his rushing the forward pass all the time. Wouldn't get into the midfield of any of the top 6 and Arsenal have Xhaka and hes terrible.
On De Gea for me. Love the man but he’s been half the keeper lately. Has to do better for both goals. He’s also turning 29 and very reliant on agility/reflexes...
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Naby's been poor at times this year giving it away as he's adapted mate but Fred makes him look like prime Xavi.
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Not actually worried about Fred he’s shown he has quality and more importantly he’s shown to me he got the right mentality. Also thought Periera was pretty good again today till he went off injured. Pogba on the other hand bar the odd flash here and there’s was pretty poor again imo.
He and the club need to decide quick on his future. If he wants to stay and comit then fine get your head down and be the player we all know you can be if not sell him! For the money we could get for Pogba you could transform this team. Toby, Meunier, Fernandes, Lozano and still have some change. That’s before we even touch our transfer budget.
He and the club need to decide quick on his future. If he wants to stay and comit then fine get your head down and be the player we all know you can be if not sell him! For the money we could get for Pogba you could transform this team. Toby, Meunier, Fernandes, Lozano and still have some change. That’s before we even touch our transfer budget.
think its time to think about selling him dont think his heart is in it may be saf was right in the first place who knows such a shame
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Okay, now I feel you guys give Zz too much **** and I will admit, he can be a bit repetitive with his concerns but some of his concerns are indeed valid.
Will OGS' appointment work out? Looking at our recent run, you'd have every reason to doubt it. Now, people bring up conditioning but we can't simply put that insipid performance against everton down to conditioning since the players never showed up from minute 1. I'm pragmatic enough to hold off any criticism of OGS until next season but I won't be surprised if not much will change in terms of current performances. Ole could very well be a flash in the pan and a good short term option but what about long term?
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Will OGS' appointment work out? Looking at our recent run, you'd have every reason to doubt it. Now, people bring up conditioning but we can't simply put that insipid performance against everton down to conditioning since the players never showed up from minute 1. I'm pragmatic enough to hold off any criticism of OGS until next season but I won't be surprised if not much will change in terms of current performances. Ole could very well be a flash in the pan and a good short term option but what about long term?
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I'ts not about valid or nor valid. He's repeating the same **** every 12 hours. Knowing full well absolutely none of it can change until the end of the season. It's stupid.
Also saying nothing will change, when just 2 months ago we saw how devastating the players can be, is also stupid
We can't judge long term, because we are not in the close season for long term plans such as transfers to start occurring.
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I don't think we'll ever agree on it though Mike, for me the appointment of Solskjaer went entirely against what they said they were going to do from the start... wait until end of season before making a decision. But no of course they jump the gun because they can't make calculated footballing decisions hence the need for a Director Of Football badly.
Compound that to contracts with Smalling, Jones and Young then we're off to a losing start to this supposed great incoming rebuild. People who think Smalling is even good enough need to seriously ask themselves a question.... why does he never get into a Southgate England team? Cos he's not good enough to play out from the back, this is supposedly what an Ole system is going to be doing next season.
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But anyway that's the last I'll say on the matter until next season at least anyway.
Compound that to contracts with Smalling, Jones and Young then we're off to a losing start to this supposed great incoming rebuild. People who think Smalling is even good enough need to seriously ask themselves a question.... why does he never get into a Southgate England team? Cos he's not good enough to play out from the back, this is supposedly what an Ole system is going to be doing next season.
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But anyway that's the last I'll say on the matter until next season at least anyway.
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Smalling isn't good enough to play out from the back? Did you ever watch a game under lvg? He was class and always bringing the ball forward. Unless it's his brother Mike I'm getting confused with
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I don't buy this not fit enough ****. When ole came in we was a different team. Maybe have been a bounce from a new manager but we was playing quicker and getting forward. Lose a few games and it's gone to ****. Now the excuse is were not fit. How? We had half a season under mourinho where we hardly run. So if they have done **** all for half a season, then make an effort on par with top sides for 2 months, all of a sudden they are knackered again?
They are professional athletes on tens and hundreds of thousands a week. And done **** all near required for half a season before they started running. Fatigue and fitness shouldn't be our excise now. And it's not like they have no energy at all. If they ran flat out for 60/70 minutes then got tired and dropped off then fair enough. But against Everton we didn't run from minute 1. Are we to believe playing 12 games at a different pace from before has wiped them out? If so they all need sacking
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They are professional athletes on tens and hundreds of thousands a week. And done **** all near required for half a season before they started running. Fatigue and fitness shouldn't be our excise now. And it's not like they have no energy at all. If they ran flat out for 60/70 minutes then got tired and dropped off then fair enough. But against Everton we didn't run from minute 1. Are we to believe playing 12 games at a different pace from before has wiped them out? If so they all need sacking
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Smalling is tough as nails, great in the air and surprisingly quick for a centerback, but he's basically a 1980s type of defender. It's true, under LVG it seemed as if suddenly Franz Beckenbauer died and his soul went into Smalling. But 3 years later I think it's obvious that it's not that Smalling magically improved, it's just that LVGs extremely structured approach to football was making up for Smallings tactical inadequacies.
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You keep highlighting this all the time zZ. They are not the best, but they are good enough to be rotational options. That is why they received new contracts. And they add to our homegrown contingent.
They are rotational, and won't start next season. They are perfect for rotation, though, and you do need an alternate to a BPD, and Smalling is good at staying back. As for Young, he has a one year contract extension, and as long as he doesn't start next season, it is still a pretty good deal covering for injuries (the club is already looking for a RB, and Shaw will start on the left). Young can cover for multiple positions, and gives it his all on the pitch, generally. And we need leaders in the dressing room, and he atleast serves as that.
You are basically looking at the past few games, seeing Young, Jones and Smalling starting and hyperventilating about the future. IF they are still starting at the start of next season, I will give you that. But until then, it is a situation noone can do anything about, due to a lack of other players in the positions. Besides, with a new CB next season, we would have to go to the market to get two more passable CBs incase Smalling and Jones weren't extending, adding to an already seemingly impossible rebuild.